Re: Diethelm's unique delay + pitch music

[Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>]

I may have told the story in a way that it suggests obsolete equipment. but while he used the AMS there was no other machine that could do those tricks. and the rest of the equipment also was up to date.

a question could be to create music that depends on a specific equipment - especially when its an expensive or unique one...

On 161212 00:23, Richard Sales wrote:

Danny wasn't hurting financially at all. Times I spent with him he seemed happy to be who, where & how he was.

Go figure.  The man could play perfect, incredible takes, first pass, and hearing the song for the first time.  Extremely talented and disciplined.

I think part of Diethelm's story is the tragedy of obsolete equipment.  I've had absolutely perfect setups that I had dialled down to a T and could write & orchestrate music as fast as I could play it.  Zero down time looking for sounds, hitting a manual, rebooting.  Then... oops!  That hardware/software no longer works.  It's now dead in the water. 

That's happened maybe three or four times.  I had to start over from scratch each time.  And spend a fortune (repeatedly) in the process. 

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 3:50 PM, DogFaced Boy <stratovangelist@gmail.com> wrote:

I think there are lessons for living in front of us, TOO. It took me somewhere into my 40's to even be capable of really learning from other people; younger, I had to repeat a LOT of kinda obvious mistakes to prove them true. This is too common - isolated genius boils in juices of their own frustration. I kept thinking if Danny Gatton had just held out until the lumbering internet beast... lumbered a little better, he could've assumed the senior genius label he has but BE here to enjoy it. Maybe this guy too? Of course nowadays their are still seven million geniuses on YouTube not getting paid, but at least they can all complement each other. Money ruins everything.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:03 PM, <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:

I update here a mail I wrote in 1997:

Thomas Diethelm is a Swiss nylon guitar virtuoso that made some success in Europe mid 80ies using a unique kind of LiveLooping:
https://thomasdiethelm.bandcamp.com

He was rather of the individual kind, had his own strong style (literaly, he was a champion in spear throwing, before dedicating to the guitar!), a virtuoso as long as playing his own compositions and using his AMS DMX 15-80S digital delay and pitch
shifter.

He wanted to live on his music and tried to be popular. He used to say that he needs to create 'liedli', little songs - as opposed to the instrumental compositions he would naturally create. Its a pity he neither made the big success he would deserve for his ability nor do we have the music that really came to him... but its still very amazing and unique what he left us!

His main technique was to set up a pattern of delayed pitch transpositions.
So each note he played turned into a short melody of 2 to 6 notes. For each
song, he used specific patterns and composed using the delayed transposed
notes.
This may sounds trivial, but once you listen to his records (about 6 of
them, “Valeys in my Head" I would recommend most) you get impressed how far
he went with this technique.
From this album on he also used a Paradis Hexaphonic guitar with Polydistortion effect he faded in to set accents.

Often he quickly alternated between chords and melody playing and due to the
delay both were constantely present and due to the
pitch shift, there was no impression of repetition. The limitation of this
technique made him creative in terms of composition and gave his own sound.
Two of the records he made in team with one of the best Swiss keyboarders
Santino Famulari, the others feature an always changing good band. only the last album is almost solo I heard him often play solo when we worked and always found it sounded much more impressive than with the band.

He complained a lot about the failing (bad contacts) expensive and sensible AMS studio
machine. since he completely depended on it, this might even have contributed to the end
of his career around 1990.

For 10 years he was happy to sells dried spiced fish (he was a brilliant cook, too!).

around 2005 someone created a special MAX software on a WinXP Laptop and he tried a comback with the last recording Guiteros.
then he lost his workshop and living place and had to sell his instruments and lost the reason to live and died in 2013 rather miserable.

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richard sales
www.glasswing.com

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