Re: thanks dt

["max valentino" <ekstasis1@hotmail.com>]

Oh...by the way (and this is expressly addressed to Mr.dt) I just got my 
copy of the Splattercell CD (I know...I procrastinated. it was on my list 
of 
things to do for a good long time....better late than never). And I must 
say 
what a divine inspiration it is! To all on the list (regardless of 
instrument or specific style of music) get this CD! It's been in my CD 
player for the past three days....but I can't get thru a complete listen! 
I 
hear one track (or even a partial track) and HAVE to dash off to the 
studio 
and do some creating of my own. Extremely creative and inspiring. 
Thank-you 
Mr. Torn.
With much respect,
Max Valentino

>From: Hedewa7@aol.com
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: fdbk control/dt goes astray, again.....
>Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:58:11 EST
>
>all,
>please forgive my obvious penchant for vague & cloudy philosophising,
>here.....
>
>steve@steve-lawson.co.uk writes:
> >Yeah, Ideally you'll have both - I do like the idea of fading from one
> >loop to the next - I've heard Eberhard Weber do this
> >with an EDP - good effect.
>yeah, yup:
>btw: i brought eberhard his first 'looping' device' -a pcm42 just like 
>mine,
>modified by gary hall (?bob sellon?)- way back in 1985 (?'84?).
>we were in jan garbarek group, together, for a coupla years; ew liked my
>looping-contributions to that music, & wanted to explore that arena, for
>himself.....
>
> >I create a similar effect by fading a loop by
> >foot whilst looping with another box - ie. JamMan
> >with loop gets faded by volume pedal, whilst stuff being played is being
> >looped with DL4...
>cool.
>
> >I'd never argue for less control, though too many controls can lead to
> >control being limited...
>as more controls are offered on looping-instruments, we each seem to have 
>the
>opportunity to more selectively choose which of those controls we *focus*
>upon.
>and, as 'looping-as-an-instrument' is still in development ---(as are the
>products on offer ---indeed, it appears to me that, other than the EDP & 
>the
>impending Repeater, it's still in its infancy, w/most looping-instruments
>still playing catch-up w/the old tape-loop/long-delay-line paradigm, and 
>many
>players' useage of the technology hyper-focussed upon the
>'looper-as-playback-device')---
>i'd currently hafta argue that there cannot be too many controls 
>-especially,
>as regards expressivity- though i do believe that the interface w/a 
>complex
>set of controls might possibly impede their (eventual) musical/virtuosic
>employ.....
>
> >As GAry has quoted me saying,
> >I'm not planning on adding anything new to my setup til I'm completely
> >conversant with what I've got - I'd rather hear
> >someone playing with an 8 second JamMan that they knew inside out, than
> >looping clumsily with 14 EDPs or Repeaters all linked
> >up, as I'm sure any of us would.
>dig; i think i understand that noble sentiment.
>but, i'd hope that the application, thereof, is not too broadly 
>painted.....
>(for myself, 'tis true that i'd mostly rather hear a musician capable of
>playing a piece of music that moves me w/just one note & simple 'gear', 
>than
>any expressively-disconnected fleet-fingered 'virtuoso' w/racks and racks 
>of
>unused-and-potentially-misunderstood electro-goo.....
>i do wonder why we musicians seem so often intent on finding & furthering
>these kindsa polarising concepts, all the time, though?)
>would anyone, here, reject the exploratory addition of a new kinda
>bass/turntable/guitar/computer/etc to your kit, even if you had only a few
>specialised-but-irreplaceable uses for it?
>
>and -again, sorry for what may be rhetorical:
>how will ya *know* when yer 'completely conversant' w/whatall instruments
>you're currently using: when your useage of said instrument is 'fluid'? 
>when
>your peers tell you that it's 'so'? when your imagination tires of mining 
>the
>possibilities? when your musical education 'satisfies' you?
>
>and, re: the presentation of someone 'looping clumsily w/14 EDP's or
>Repeaters':
>it may be that that freak is gonna present something musically 
>*phenomenal*,
>someday, eh?
>the edges of any 'movement' are always in development/in motion, & there
>appear to be myriad consensually-acceptable criteria & agreements for
>'judgement';
>maybe it's important to remember that for some folk it's better to sharpen
>the edges, than to codify & organise what's already been done..... i 
>think 
>it
>might be our responsibility -and, to our advantage- to encourage that
>activity, here in the looping-worlds..... and, i'd hold that it certainly 
>is
>our responsibility to the world, as musicians.
>
> >Once I've nailed the current set up, it'll be time for bigger boxes :o)
>cool.
>me, i just (somewhat reluctantly, & w/a hint of financial difficulty--- i
>have 2 kids in the american univer$ity $y$tem, y'all.....) bought another
>guitar -a different one, w/some potential for new/personal musical
>functionalities- even though i haven't mastered the other one, yet, and 
>can't
>believe that i ever will.....
>8-)
>best,
>dt / SPLaTTeRCeLL
>

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