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Re: Thoughts on the Eclipse, Fireworx, G-Force, and PCM81

Thanks, Luca.

Well, I do like clean so that is a plus for me on the Fireworx.  The 
quality is not an issue for me as I add reverb only after my looping unit, 
and I plan to use the Eclipse or Fireworx before the looper. I'm a firm 
advocate of adding reverb after and never before my looping device. I'll 
using one of my VF1's for post loop reverb....good enough for live 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luca Formentini" <luca@unguitar.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Eclipse, Fireworx, G-Force, and PCM81

> Hi Kris,
> I've worked with all these effects and I have a Fireworx and an Orville 
> my rack.
> I can second all what David Coffin has said, I just add one thing:
> The Fireworx has great filters, a great compressor and a very nice 
> algorithm.
> I am using the Fwx mainly for loops post processing but I also want to 
> keep it available for my main guitar input as it has a "sound" which is 
> very different form the Orville ( and also from the Eclipse, which is 
> "thick" compared to the Orville).
> The Fwx sound can be described as "sterile" by some, but I think it is 
> of the most clean and "percussive" ones I've ever heard from these kind 
> processors; so I like it, specially on very clean parts.
> Its reverbs are nothing compared to Eventides and Lexicon.
> It is a box that is lacking of a deeper evolution and has a few 
> limitations ( as has already been touched by David and Per) but it is 
> of those boxes which has a very distinctive character.
> If I could bring up another ( elder), very interesting box, it would be 
> the Sony Dps V77.
> Anyway, if I should choose one between the ones you wrote I would go 
> the Eclipse, all in all it is the most complete one and it is the one 
> which has the best reverbs and delays.
> my best,
> luca
> www.unguitar.com
> Krispen Hartung wrote:
>> I'd like to get your thoughts on the Eventide Eclipse, TC Electronic 
>> Fireworx, TC Electrronics G-Force, and Lexicon PCM81. If I had to 
>> in only one of these, which would give me the most tone mangling / 
>> goodies for the buck?  The Fireworx appears to have a lot of different 
>> types of effects, more than the other two from what I can tell, but I'd 
>> like to hear from some of you who own these units.
>> I'm looking for a unit, preferrable, that has all the standard delay, 
>> reverb, pitch, and chorus/modulation effects, but also ring mod, 
>> hopefully some quasi-synth guitar like effects, Filter, and whatever 
>> it can muster.  I've heard some really ethereal and rich pad-like 
>> from the Eventides, which I really like, so that is a must.
>> Why you ask? Now that my laptop system is complete and serving me well, 
>> I'm building a botique, yet simple rack system on the 
>> side...Looperlative, two VF1s', and whatever I decide from the above 
>> units.
>> Kris
>> .