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Re: Thoughts on the Eclipse, Fireworx, G-Force, and PCM81
Well, I do like clean so that is a plus for me on the Fireworx. The
quality is not an issue for me as I add reverb only after my looping unit,
and I plan to use the Eclipse or Fireworx before the looper. I'm a firm
advocate of adding reverb after and never before my looping device. I'll
using one of my VF1's for post loop reverb....good enough for live
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luca Formentini" <email@example.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Eclipse, Fireworx, G-Force, and PCM81
> Hi Kris,
> I've worked with all these effects and I have a Fireworx and an Orville
> my rack.
> I can second all what David Coffin has said, I just add one thing:
> The Fireworx has great filters, a great compressor and a very nice
> I am using the Fwx mainly for loops post processing but I also want to
> keep it available for my main guitar input as it has a "sound" which is
> very different form the Orville ( and also from the Eclipse, which is
> "thick" compared to the Orville).
> The Fwx sound can be described as "sterile" by some, but I think it is
> of the most clean and "percussive" ones I've ever heard from these kind
> processors; so I like it, specially on very clean parts.
> Its reverbs are nothing compared to Eventides and Lexicon.
> It is a box that is lacking of a deeper evolution and has a few
> limitations ( as has already been touched by David and Per) but it is
> of those boxes which has a very distinctive character.
> If I could bring up another ( elder), very interesting box, it would be
> the Sony Dps V77.
> Anyway, if I should choose one between the ones you wrote I would go
> the Eclipse, all in all it is the most complete one and it is the one
> which has the best reverbs and delays.
> my best,
> Krispen Hartung wrote:
>> I'd like to get your thoughts on the Eventide Eclipse, TC Electronic
>> Fireworx, TC Electrronics G-Force, and Lexicon PCM81. If I had to
>> in only one of these, which would give me the most tone mangling /
>> goodies for the buck? The Fireworx appears to have a lot of different
>> types of effects, more than the other two from what I can tell, but I'd
>> like to hear from some of you who own these units.
>> I'm looking for a unit, preferrable, that has all the standard delay,
>> reverb, pitch, and chorus/modulation effects, but also ring mod,
>> hopefully some quasi-synth guitar like effects, Filter, and whatever
>> it can muster. I've heard some really ethereal and rich pad-like
>> from the Eventides, which I really like, so that is a must.
>> Why you ask? Now that my laptop system is complete and serving me well,
>> I'm building a botique, yet simple rack system on the
>> side...Looperlative, two VF1s', and whatever I decide from the above