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Re: Thoughts on the Eclipse, Fireworx, G-Force, and PCM81

Hi Kris,
I've worked with all these effects and I have a Fireworx and an Orville 
in my rack.
I can second all what David Coffin has said, I just add one thing:
The Fireworx has great filters, a great compressor and a very nice 
formant algorithm.
I am using the Fwx mainly for loops post processing but I also want to 
keep it available for my main guitar input as it has a "sound" which is 
very different form the Orville ( and also from the Eclipse, which is 
more "thick" compared to the Orville).
The Fwx sound can be described as "sterile" by some, but I think it is 
one of the most clean and "percussive" ones I've ever heard from these 
kind of processors; so I like it, specially on very clean parts.
Its reverbs are nothing compared to Eventides and Lexicon.
It is a box that is lacking of a deeper evolution and has a few 
limitations ( as has already been touched by David and Per) but it is 
one of those boxes which has a very distinctive character.
If I could bring up another ( elder), very interesting box, it would be 
the Sony Dps V77.
Anyway, if I should choose one between the ones you wrote I would go 
with the Eclipse, all in all it is the most complete one and it is the 
one which has the best reverbs and delays.

my best,

Krispen Hartung wrote:

> I'd like to get your thoughts on the Eventide Eclipse, TC Electronic 
> Fireworx, TC Electrronics G-Force, and Lexicon PCM81. If I had to 
> invest in only one of these, which would give me the most tone 
> mangling / effect goodies for the buck?  The Fireworx appears to have 
> a lot of different types of effects, more than the other two from what 
> I can tell, but I'd like to hear from some of you who own these units.
> I'm looking for a unit, preferrable, that has all the standard delay, 
> reverb, pitch, and chorus/modulation effects, but also ring mod, 
> hopefully some quasi-synth guitar like effects, Filter, and whatever 
> else it can muster.  I've heard some really ethereal and rich pad-like 
> sounds from the Eventides, which I really like, so that is a must.
> Why you ask? Now that my laptop system is complete and serving me 
> well, I'm building a botique, yet simple rack system on the 
> side...Looperlative, two VF1s', and whatever I decide from the above 
> five units.
> Kris
> .