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Re: Mobius part 2

Ah, thanks for the clarification Per, I'd read you
used Live and used Mobius alone as well, but i guess I
was unclear as to what ends each was used.

But it made me think about how I intend to use my

In one sense I want it to be super simple like
Chainer.  In this sense the laptop will act as a
dedicated looper/processor (maybe a soft synth every
now and then)

However, my hope is to also use it live where it
provides sequenced beats and loops.... OK, and maybe a
VSTi every now and then.  (Man I love grainstates!)

So, as a wise man once said "A well asked question
answers itself."  Perhaps I'm looking for 2 things and
a single program isn't the answer.  Maybe Chainer and
Energy XT will do the jobs and they're both in my
budget for sure. (Live is a little pricey right now...
although I guess I have an upgrade deal from a light



--- Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 25 jun 2006, at 19.50, mark sottilaro wrote:
> > On the topic of Mobius, why do you like Chainer as
> a
> > vst host?  I know Per loves Live
> Sorry to interrupt here, but I only use Live as a
> host when I can let  
> Live set the master tempo. And that happens almost
> never. So in  
> praxis I don't use any VST host at all. I think
> Mobius is so much  
> more "playable" as a standalone version. When using
> Mobius to create  
> tracks for recording projects I use the "Record
> Audio" function in  
> Mobius that renders a file to the hard drive. Then I
> move that file  
> into a traditional DAW (Logic is my fav) to
> eventually assemble the  
> piece, sweeten audio, mix and master for CD or DVD.
> The reason I don't like Live is that it doesn't
> follow MIDI clock  
> very well. At least when playing solo gigs I like to
> have Mobius  
> define the tempo and provide the master MIDI clock
> and last time I  
> did that, in November 2005, Live "lost sync" way too
> often.
> > but I'm not sure if I
> > need or would use all it's functionality.
> Live has nice plug-ins and lets you change pitch and
> timing, is that  
> what you mean you may not need?
> > I'd rather
> > have something that has some midi
> editing/sequencing
> > ability.  I'm checking out Tracktion right now but
> I'm
> > curioius.
> These days Live has MIDI sequencing and some basic
> MIDI editing. Live  
> does not let you define MIDI groove templates from
> audio loops or  
> MIDI loops though.
> Greetings from Sweden
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se (Swedish)
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