Well...........the hour is late and I should be in bed long ago but I just HAD to post, after a night of almost endless frustration I think I have SOLVED 3 EDPs controlled off one FCB 1010 using Midi NOTES!!
edpA offset=0
MUT SUSOVR SUSREP UNDo NEXT
6 15 21 7 8
REC OVRDUB MULTIP REVS HLFSPD reset all
2 3 4 13 12 26
edpB offset- 44
MUT SUSOVR SUSREP UNDo NEXT
50 59 65 51 52
REC OVRDUB MULTIP REVS HLFSPD reset all
46 47 48 57 56 70
edpC offset 89
MUT SUSOVR SUSREP UNDo NEXT reset
95 104 110 96 97 115
REC OVRDUB MULTIP REVS HLFSPD
91 92 93 102 103
Basically the three resets all go on page00 with EDPs in banks 01/02/03 as listed
I ended up having to shunt the midi numbers closer togeather one at a time and noting any bad reactions from any of the other EDPs til i found this paticular combo
ALSO on the issue of synch, i used an older maplin headphone splitter and it now seems to work 90 PERCENT of the time in brother sync...i think the times it doesnt I am accidentally breaking out of the sync through miss pressing long or short presses, im not sure. but so far looks promising.
now I just need to solve a distortion problem and I will be set to gig YAY
Phill MyOneManBand
PS....when it first started to work , i actually pinched myself to make sure i hadnt fallen asleep and was dreaming i had fixed it
From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Programming the FCB1010 for the EDP (Karma)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:03:17 +0000
Hi there....talk about problems!!!
With the CC fudge-solution sugested here I can get the following by keeping the cc's on channel1 with a source offset of 36
BOTTOM ROW
1 record using just one cc...and a Value of 38-01
(I then tried using a value of 38-01 as CC1 followed by a value of 38-00 ...this resulted in having to tap the pedal en extra time before it would begin or stop recording , i dont know why.)
2 overdub again seems to work using just one cc 39-01
3 multiply again just one cc seding out 40-01
4 half speed 48-01
5 reverse 49-01
(should these have other numbers following them in a seccond cc? if so can someone give an example I can work with?)
TOP ROW
6 Mute 42-01 seems to work now
7 Sus Overdub ...cant find any combination of cc's to work
8 Sus Replace ... again can't get working
9 Undo CC1 43-01.... CC2 43-00 .......seems to kind of work but the EDP light goes perminantly red and this sometimes seems to glitch and stop all other buttons working
0 Next Loop 44-01
on another page I have also been tying to get reset but cant get it to work consistently (sometimes it seems to work but not always)using cc1 62-01 followed by cc2 62-01
the nmbers are the order in which i put them into the fcb1010 hope it makes sense, am i putting them in the wrong order or choosing incorrect numbers? i just dont know where to start.
OK If i have to move on and get more kit I think my first port of call will be Uno, is anyone using an Uno modded FCB1010 with a EDP using CC's on here? does it work? I would love to hear from you.
Many thanks for continued help
Phill Wilson
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:05:45 +0100
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Programming the FCB1010 for the EDP (Karma)
>
> hi Phillip
>
> You can use CC to operate an EDP,
> but using the fcb1010 gives limited results,
> as the edp needs the CC equivalent of Note-Offs
> if you're going to get the same results.
>
> i.e. if when you released he switch you
> could send the corresponding CC with a value of 0 then all would be
> well, thus giving you all the needed LongPress and ShortPress functions.
> ...but the fcb doesn't do that
>
>
> Just sending the first CC on it's own always gives you LongPress,
> ...so every time you try Record, you get a Reset :-(
>
>
> As fcb can send 2 CCs, you could program in a ShortPress,
> by sending the CC of value 0 immediately after the CC for the function.
> ..but problem is you have to program another switch if you want the
> LongPress at all.
>
> Lack of EDP3 response....check the fcb global midi channel for the CCs.
>
>
> Conclusion...it doesn't work that well :-(
>
> Suggestion...use a Midi Router instead. Andre Lafosse controlled 5 edps with one of those.
>
> Or..Get the Uno firmware upgrade for you fcb which solves the CC problem.
>
>
> andy butler
>
> phillip wilson wrote:
> > Hi Erland..and all...
> >
> > Heres a deal for you....Erland, I will email u offlist and work this
> > through with u, I have two EDPs up and running with the FCB
> > perfectly..Im confident I can get u up and running.
> >
> > HERES THE CATCH EVERYONE ELSE----
> > Will someone further up the ladder in EDP usership help ME!!!
> >
> > I need to control 3 EDPs of one Behringer FCB1010....
> > so far I can get two to play using notes and offsets of 0 and 48 on
> > Channel 1...........but if I try to add the same commands for EDP3 I run
> > out of midi notes at the top end (would need 137) If i bunch the offsets
> > closer together there seems to be cross talk between the desired
> > function on EDP3 and some undesired function on EDP2 due to overlap.
> >
> > I am therefor hoping I can use FCB1010 with the edp set to CTR instead
> > to grab them last buttons, however at the moment I cant get any reaction
> > at all out of EDP3
> >
> > It is still set to channel 1 same as the notes and I have brought the
> > offset back to 0 seeing as we are using CTR's so there shouldnt be any
> > miss-infomations (right???) basically if you have made an EDP work using
> > a behringer FCB1010 and CTR's I would love to hear from you.
> >
> > Pay It Forward
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:20:09 +0200
> > > From: perboysen@gmail.com
> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > > Subject: Re: Programming the FCB1010 for the EDP
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Erland <erlandka2@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Is there a guide out there to programming the FCB1010 for use with
> > the EDP
> > > > other than the Behringer and Echoplex manuals?
> > > > I've already given up a few times even though I find myself quite
> > > > technically minded.
> > > >
> > > > I'm mostly interested in the granular functions and feedback pedal as I
> > > > already have the Gibson and Digitech footcontrollers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks much,
> > > >
> > > > Erland
> > >
> > >
> > > Try searching the archives of this list! The topic has been up many
> > > times. I bet you will find at least three good guides ;-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Greetings from Sweden
> > >
> > > Per Boysen
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> > >
> >
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