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RE: midi control SW sampler live/hands free



The midi implementation of the 1010 is actually such that the device has 10
'slots' so to speak.   5 PC slots, 2 CC slots, 1 Note ON slot (the 1010 
does
NOT send Note OFFs) and then two assignable expression pedals which 
transmit
1 CC message type each (per preset).

Each of these 'slots' is globally assigned to a midi channel.  Ergo, if you
assign the Note ON 'slot' to midi channel 3, you can only program presets 
to
send a midi Note ON out on midi channel 3.  If you wanted to send a midi
Note ON message on any other midi channel, you'd have to change the global
midi channel assignment for Note ONs and this change would apply to ALL 
1010
presets that were programed to send this type of midi message.  Right now
though, holding a footswitch down will is not functionally different than
pressing it momentarily.  The 1010 does not interpret the act of holding
down a footswitch, all programed functions are sent upon the intial press
(expression pedals work differently of course, sending out appropriate midi
CC values when you sweep them).

You're correct in that the 1010 cannot send any midi messages upon the
release of a footswitch, only the press.  This is the biggest limitation 
for
me, although they may release a firmware update at some point to change
this, assuming they think it's worth the effort and the physical device can
support it (I think it should).  Note OFFs would then be possible with this
implementation.

With regards to selecting an appropriate loop or sample in a software
program via the 1010, the software program would have to support this
function via either PC or CC messages, and then the 1010 could do this,
easily in fact.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Ray Lucas [mailto:jlucas@neoprimitive.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:05 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com; rich@nalutech.com
> Subject: Re: midi control SW sampler live/hands free
>
>
> Rich-
>
> Get any MIDI foot controller that sends MIDI note on
> messages.  I'm looking
> at the Behringer FCB1010 right now.  Super cheap and
> programmable.  A couple
> caveats:  I've heard, is that each program on the FCB1010 can
> only send on
> one channel.  You could get around this by having multiple
> programs set up
> to send on different channels and switching between them with
> your feet.
> What you want sounds like "one-shot" mode (note-on message
> plays the sample
> through one time regardless of the length of the trigger
> note), and loop.
> Another thing about the FCB1010 that I've picked up is that
> the release
> command of the pedals is not programmable.  This means that you can't
> program the button to only send a note on message, which would let you
> sustain a loop until you pressed another pedal with a note off message
> programmed into it.  Thus, if you wanted to sustain a loop with that
> particular MIDI controller pedal I believe you would have to
> keep your foot
> on the triggering pedal.
>
> For software samplers I've got to recommend Native Instruments Kontakt
> (www.nativeinstruments.com).  Built in effects and modulation options
> limited only by CPU power.  Very intuitive sample mapping
> functions.  And
> *all* parameters are controllable via MIDI.  So, you could
> use the two foot
> pedals on the FCB1010 to control filter cutoff, or pitch, or
> reverb mix, or
> whatever.
>
> Cost is $300+, but considering all that it offers above an expensive
> hardware sampler solution(limitless effects, limitless LFOs,
> the list goes
> on and on), it's reasonable.  There is a warez version of Kontakt 1.01
> floating around out there if you want to download it and try
> it out (I'm not
> responsible for any viruses you get!).  It's not completely
> stable, however,
> and you can't get to Native's website to download the upgrade
> to v1.2, which
> offers all kinds of goodies like direct from disk streaming
> support, and
> ability to map controllers 7 and 10 to volume and pan
> controls, respectively
> (a curiously absent feature).
>
> Just keep in mind, if you intend to devote a lot of time to a piece of
> software and your music is going to be reliant upon it, it's
> worth your
> money to support it so the company doesn't drop it and leave
> you hanging.
> And while you're at it, badger them to make Linux versions of their
> software!
>
> -Jesse
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Schiavi" <rich@nalutech.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:32 PM
> Subject: midi control SW sampler live/hands free
>
>
> >
> > for a guitarist/echoplex users, i want to be able to
> trigger samples from
> > software samplers. i'm looking at acid pro and ableton, and
> looking at
> unity.
> > my main question is, i'm trying to figure out a way to use
> a midi foot
> > controller to select a particular sample (or program or
> sample from a
> bank?)
> > and start/stop that particular sample, all from a midi foot
> controller so
> i can
> > keep my hands on the guitar/etc/instrument.
> >
> > has anyone got this working? i messed around with my rolls
> midi buddy and
> > ableton and acid pro but couldn't see anything to get it to
> select and
> trigger
> > a sample to start playing (continuous) or one time, etc.
> >
> > thanks for ideas/suggestions.
> >
> > rich
>
>