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RE: What is looping .... was _MUSIC - "D Torn Kaisers Aars E.T." tríbute to some heroes

Ahh we seem to wok along similar lines... I don't really see the octatrack as an "MPC on Steriods" I haven't seen any sensible way to live sample and replay on a MPC. I think an MPC could be a complement to the octatrack. The machine can do a whole lot of cool sequencer tricks, all from applying different effects settings on different steps to pitch shifting and rate change per step. Evan Slicing a sample an trigg different samples on each step.. so on track could for example first use recorder 1 then slice that, play different slices with all sorts of different settings on each step and even have some steps play from an other recorder that records in real time... 
I see the octatrack almost as synth where my guitar is the oscillator. 
My work flow usually is 
- Decide if I want i through track which i use if i don mike an amp, if I mike an amp i spit the signal so that i can record the direct signal separately on my Zoom
- Decide if I want some canned loops, if yes I load them to a track and tweak them
-Check the recorders and set them to some different length, usually 1 or long (64 steps) some 16 steps and often one or two really short, perhaps 4 steps
- set playback length for each track, usually same as recording length, but i have used 5,17 or 19 on some track while some other are on the usual 16, 32 or 64 steps (this creates poly rhythm)
- sett the initial effects per track
-some times set scee effects for the crossfader
In all it take perhaps 5 minutes. I have now saved a few projects which i can start tweaking from.. if i were to play live iI would use all preset project, changing projects takes a few seconds..
Not that different from your mobius flow..

Of to the cottage now I will be back on Sunday...

Greetings from Trångsund..

> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:59:42 +0200
> Subject: Re: What is looping .... was _MUSIC - "D Torn Kaisers Aars E.T." tríbute to some heroes
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> I tend to agree with Anders here, that it surprises me that so few
> list members are utilizing sequencing techniques. This because
> sequencing technique relies on the same craft in applied music theory
> as a lot of the minimal art music and progressive rock by for example
> King Crimson.
> The Electron seems very cool to me, but I'm not sure I need all those
> functions for live work. It seems to be a modern "MPC on steroids"!
> Not sure I would be able to make use of all its features for live work
> though. In fact, my own most successful periods in live music making
> has happened when I have reduced my options to a handful gestures at
> hand. The ability to perform is vulnerable to the balance between
> being able to keep a flow over time in the instant composing process
> and having powerful sound shaping tools.
> I look at much of my live looping in Mobius as "sequencing
> techniques". My "palette" is a number of optional "grids" I can apply
> to a number of bars and each grid is like a sequence - but it lets
> through live played source audio to be sampled into a loop (rather
> than driving source audio as the synthesizer sequencing). So the
> process is:
> 1) Chose and apply a "sequence grid" (Mobius script at hand).
> 2) Make some source audio on your instrument.
> 3) By adjust a fader for "Secondary Feedback" your control how much of
> the earlier loop layers will be replaced by the new audio coming in
> through the grid.
> With this technique you can effectively build up machine tight
> sequences in seconds from any live played audio instrument or noise.
> BTW, here a simple example of this "grid sequencing live looping" in
> the form of a Mobius flute improvisation:
> http://soundcloud.com/pboy/going-fishing-20090524-1312
> Greetings from Sweden
> Per Boysen
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> www.perboysen.com
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