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On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Pete Koniuto wrote: > > Loopers, > > On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Dave Stagner wrote: > > > The other source was a book by English free improvisor Derek Bailey, > > called (appropriately enough) "Musical Improvisation". Bailey devoted > > two chapters of this rather thin volume to Indian classical music, > > praising it extensively as an improvisational structure. He spent > > much time dealing with the basic musical theory, which is more > > philosophical than "musical" in nature. Because there really isn't a > > written form for the music, there is debate over even the number of > > notes in an octave. > > Small correction: The book by Derek Bailey is actually called > _Improvisation: its nature and practice in music_, published in 1980, >but > then a second edition appeared in 1992 from the London publisher, British > Library National Sound Archive. Thanks for the correction. I'm going from memory here. Heck, I only recently rediscovered my copy, buried in a box with a bunch of half-demolished electronics I stripped for parts. I was terrified I had loaned it out to someone and never got it back! > But, alas, even the second edition is out of print already. However, > i am sure a copy of at least one of these editions is available in > your local library. I've NEVER seen it in a library, including a couple of university libraries. Then again, given the typical Ivory Tower conservatory attitude toward improvisation... > There is another *excellent* book for those interested in the >fundamentals > of Indian Classical music--the terminology and such. It was written by >a > woman whose name eludes me for the moment, but i have it at home >somewhere, > i believe. So i'll post the info tomorrow. Please do! All I have are my Ali Akbar Khan records, the Bailey book, and memories of a conversation from years ago. It seems to me Indian music theory might go a long way toward capturing an understanding of looping, where Western theory falls flat. -dave By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete. Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. Venus De Milo. To a child she is ugly. -Charles Fort dstagner@icarus.net