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On 2 Dec 1996, Michael Peters wrote: > I still have problems with the Vortex - the few really interesting and > useful sounds I got out of it I found by blind trial and error, which is >a > very tiresome method because most of the time the sounds aren't very > interesting (they sound to me like just another chorus/echo combination). That's funny -- practically all of my user registers are filled with some of the most bizarre, brain-bending, stomach-turning things I've ever heard. > I still don't *understand* how it works. (This is largely due to lack >time > plus my laziness which keep me from wading through the algorithm > descriptions.) I don't *understand* it that much either, to tell you the truth. There are a couple of very bizarre patches that seem to have minds of their own, and behave in unpredictable ways. My approach is usually along the lines of, "HMMM, let's see what this thing does if I turn X control to Y settings..." and then behold the onslaught. The big problem (and the great thing about the box, as well) is that since every single effect responds differently to the same general family of settings, memorizing what a certain control setting does is only good for that particular patch. So turning up depth 2 has a very different result on the escalator-over-the-seesaw pitch-shift thingie than it does on the robot-gargling-salt-water jobbie. I'm reluctant to post too many patches, partially because of time and partically because they're so wierd that I'm hesitant to give them away. Besides, there's no great secret; all you have to do is sit down with each effect and tweek parameters 'till the cows come home. You might be surprised -- I still can't believe this is the same box I demoed at Guitar Center. --Andre