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Well my Vortex arrived here Fri. from Guitar Center in Hollywood. I gave it a quick test run to make sure it didn't exhibit any of the problems some Loopists have reported their units did. So far it checks out O.K. I'm not completely sure since it arrived missing a manual (which Guitar Center is shipping). In the meantime I'm going through the Vortex Message Collection on the web page to get started. In doing so I came accross this in one of Dave Stanger's posts: "Here's a technique I use with the JamMan to get a more flexible, improvisational feel from it. When I first got it, I tended to use it to start a loop, then punch in more layers. But what I found was that things just got bigger and louder and bigger and louder. It had a very one-way dynamic. Now, rather than using the looping functions, I usually prefer to just use its delay function. There are 16 delay feedback levels, controlled by the knob on the front. Turn the feedback up high and start looping. At 16, you effectively have infinite repeat. As things build, you can turn the feedback down and let a loop fade, then turn it back up and add more to the loop while the older material floats in the background. " I've discovered(?) a way to do the same thing in Loop Mode. Somebody may have already covered this but here it is anyway.: 1) Define your loop- Tap in, pause/or play,Tap out--single blinking light 2) Hit Tap to initiate recording--single solid light 3) While in record mode send midi note message 9.10.or 11 (depending on fade length desired)--3 vertical solid lights. You're still in record mode but with each loop cycle what you recorded previous cycles is fading while you layer this cycle. 4) Hit Tap again and you're out of record/layer mode and your loop volume is frozen at the faded volume.--single blinking light. Note: Your loop in and out points remain in effect even if you faded to zero volume and you can initiate record/layer again with a subsequent tap. This way you can set up loops, fade them out, play "normal" (yea right) then rebuild a new loop at the original in/out length or tempo. To kill the loop hit Ring or Reset. I've found this particularly usefull in gradually changing the "character' of a loop or when working with a percussionist, fading a loop out, having a percussion solo section, then rebuilding a different loop at the same tempo as the pre-percussion solo loop. Take care and Happy Holidays to all! --- Paul (Stick Player/Loopist)