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Message text written by INTERNET:Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com >fact his actual frippertronics system is based directly on that of minimalist composer-terry riley.< Er, I believe it was "based" on the system that Brian Eno came over one day and *gave* to him. From what I've read, Eno and Riley quite independently of each other came up with similar systems around the same time. As much as a lot of us would like to point to any one person and say "No, THIS person was the one who REALLY started it", I agree with the wiser folks who have noted that looping is something that developed of its own accord, through quite a few different people and different methods, perhaps as a product of the musical and historical context. Just my 2c. jj