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At 10:21 -0500 11/26/98, RA336@aol.com wrote: > hey all... > anyone have any experience with this dod dimesion12 thing I have seen > advertised? > they call it a sampler-looper... can ya stick it in a guitar rack or >what?.... Hey Rob, I got a D12 because it was relatively cheap and I was desperate for more delay time. You're welcome to stop over and check it out. The review on the L.D. web site panned it, but I find it usable though not great. Yes, it's a 1-rack space unit. The things I find to be limitations are: - no way to move sound between sampler and delay modes, so it's either a sampler (can trigger, can't overdub, can reverse, can modify start/stop points) or a delay (can't trigger, can overdub, can't reverse). In delay mode, you only get one loop. Switching between delay and sampler modes loses the loop. - in delay mode, with the feedback at 100%, the loop's high frequencies gradually vanish (my Sony doesn't do that) - no level indicators, though trial and error was sufficient - very limited MIDI control - can't control delay time, input level, or feedback. - modulation controls in delay mode are pre-feedback, so they're destructive On the plus side: - tap tempo - 12 sec. of recording in delay mode (1 loop) - 24 sec in sample mode (which is divided into 12+12, 6+6+12, 12+6+6 or 6+6+6+6). One idiosyncracy is that in delay mode, if you change the delay time while a loop is playing, it gets time-stretched instead of pitch-shifted. Maybe this is a limitation; I haven't decided whether I like it. I haven't gotten into sampler mode at all yet. Maybe it would work well as a way to capture loops from elsewhere and trigger them on the fly (which you can do via MIDI). > also, anyone ever try fooling around with any of these new dj-style > looper/sampling stations? I'm wondering about those too. There've been a few posts about the Dr. Sample... Take care, Doug -- Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com Sonosphere (electric/improv music) http://www.sonosphere.com/