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Hi, I should have been a little clearer....I was thinking of an automated batch tool to run through loads of 'nearly looped WAVs' and create loopable versions with the extra kick/cymbal/whatever trimmed from the end of the sound. I use recycle but doing it for ooomphty thousand loops will only scare my wrists......I'm sure someone mentioned a shareware PC util at some stage for doing this.... Thanks Anthony