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Hiiiiiii thereee! have you loopers tried the AVSOUND aopplication? it's great to produce B I G D E N S E P A D S with wide range of frequencies!!! it's a command prompt MSDOS program which accepts an input wav file and a few parameters and creates totally different wave data! if you have a lack of some band freqs in a piece of music, you can get a wave, equalize it to fit this band, and pass it through AVSOUND. You get a looped pad sound you can add envelopes which fits in this band freq and makes your stuff more balanced! if you have a PC: try it! [don't know where you can get it, but surely it's on the web! just search AVSOUND] Sam #ICQ 38770781 Email: samu@findermac.com