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Re: Non-loop content: ENO and U2

Come on, Bob, I said Malcolm "DISCOVERED"  (quote, unquote)
Hip-Hop in the sense that he brought it to the attention of 
the great unwashed (mainly WHITE) masses, who were either 
too busy playing PAC-Man and Donkey Kong while listening 
to Styx and REO Speedwagon at the time, or otherwise too 
immersed in their own whitebread KUTCHA to get some "new 
science" (also Flava Flav). BTW, Public Enemy were so 
*late* on scene.

Everyone knows (or should) that it was folks like Kurtis 
Blow, Sugar Hill Gang, the Furious Five, Last Poets, 
et al, who originated the Hip-Hop/Rap genre. Geez...

Musicology is like history (not be confused with 
post-structuralist or marxist 'her-story'). Those 
who are ignorant of it are doomed to repeat it.
Or attempt to revise it for their own ends (ala
Stalin, Hitler, Farrakhan, Flava Flav).

The revisionists secret weapon is to never offer
proofs, or logical arguments. Right, Bob.

Sorry if it seems antagonistic, I'm just setting the 
record straight. As with all rational debate, please 
offer some hard evidence to the contrary. Prove it's 
"bollocks", if you can. Note: it may require some actual
experience and research. ;)

- Larry T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cummings" <r_t_cummings@compuserve.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Non-loop content: ENO and U2

> sorry people, i don't dig all this musicology nonsense. imo, this is all
> very old-fashioned. :-)
> is there really anything to gain by trying to draw straight lines
> through history? connect the dots from sidney bechet to kid creole to
> louis armstrong to larry tremblay ;-) 
> mr. tremblay bla-blas about choas theory books in one post while in the
> next he's trying to tell us about how various white males have
> single-handedly determined the course of music "HIS-STORY" (flavor
> flav). huh? malcolm mclaren as the GREAT WHITE discoverer of hip-hop?
> talk about bollocks ...
> i would suggest thomas pynchon (another white male) as a describer of
> LIVING history. ain't no straight lines for ya there baby. history is
> relative, it depends on where you are and the state of awareness.
> sorry for antagonistic tone,
> rob