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Re: fair use for samples



The opinions (to my, thankfully non-lawyeresque eyes) were pretty 
supportive of a more general view of fair use.


At 12:45 PM -0700 4/26/00, George Van Wagner wrote:
>My impression was that the 2 Live Crew case had more to do with parody
>being protected speech and the fair use implications of that, rather
>than a broader interpretation of just what constitutes fair use. There
>is some good information available at http://fairuse.stanford.edu/ for
>them what's innerested.
>
>George
>
>"Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" wrote:
>  >
>  > At 1:02 PM -0400 4/26/00, Michael Tuminello wrote:
>  > >Length is not the only constraint.  If a lawyer can make a case for
>  > >it being a major part of a song, like the hook from "satisfaction",
>  > >they could still sue you if you're not paying royalties.  As I
>  > >understand it...
>  > >
>  > >best bet is to have it be not recognizable at all, whatever the 
>length.
>  > >
>  > >MT
>  >
>  > The one who dies with the most lawyers wins(-;
>  >
>  > In the one case that reached the supreme court (the 2 Live Crew
>  > case), both the decision and opinion were firmly in favor of a broad
>  > view of fair use.  Since few of us can afford lawyers for appeal
>  > litigation, this has not help the sampling cause anywhere near as
>  > much as I had hoped.
>  >
>  > Personally, I adapt the rule of thumb that if the original producer
>  > of the source would have a less thagtn 50% chance of catching it
>  > unprompted, its fair use. How folks like DJ Shadow or Richard Kirk,
>  > whose thing is based on using a large number of recognizable though
>  > obscure samples, deal with this is beyond me. (Kirk releases his own
>  > stuff and, presumably, takes his chances. Shadow hasn't done that
>  > much lately, perhaps because of this very issue.)
>  >
>  > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man
>  > persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
>  > depends on the unreasonable man.
>  >
>  > --  George Bernard Shaw
>  >
>  >                 Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
>  > Video Producer                  Image Processing Specialist
>  > Video for your HEAD!                    Boris FX
>  > http://www.foryourhead.com              http://www.borisfx.com


"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man 
persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress 
depends on the unreasonable man.

--  George Bernard Shaw

                Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer                  Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!                    Boris FX
http://www.foryourhead.com              http://www.borisfx.com