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Re: Female Loopers?

In a message dated 4/28/00 1:26:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
reverendrob@realm-of-shade.com writes:

<< I hate "fans."  I really do.  >>

& boy oh boy, you seem to have a propensity to vomit if an agenda is not 
line with your agenda. That seems to say that u must have a lot of 
or a digestive problem young man :)  I know just the cure for that 

I know that as a looping male geetar player, I react with over-analysis 
paralysis whenever anyone points out that i have a tendancy to gravitate 
toward the perspective that how i am and how i do things is who i am 
regardless as to whether or not i am inclusive or exclusive. I have a 
tendancy to immediately offer an in depth break down of how my thoughts 
processed and finalized focusig on me, me me & more me. 

I have also come to accept how much slime men are and continue to be ...u 
must accept this "herstorical' truth and submit   with exceptional PC 
and guilt- GRIN!

& I do know the women & men in AKASH are out to get chicks so we are 
of that rock n roll myth/stereotype but can you really call us cock 
rockers...i wont go down there.....:-) 

But I think im the only person in AKASH other than the drummer who would 
aware of Flexxus and The Tubes...definitely not our vibe though u can draw 
number of evolutionary parallels from them to what we do today but that is 
not quite our game.

Pornography and blatent sexuality be it erotica or intended to be 
and graphic and or distasteful imagery is very very very chic right now 
more mainstream than ever among more women than ever. 

We also find porn and loops go hand and hand - no puns intended and have 
so for years in the scope of film and video. it was a natural combination 
make. we just make it so matter of fact that I dont think there really is 
shock value we (dah band ) get out of indulging porn or using porn 
as a backdrop to loops. it is nothing new the music & porn thang but it is 
extension of the way we all lead our lives as individuals apart from the 

and if T&A were the common denominator and the entertainment factor were 
only thing we had going as an act, people woulda been gone say 2 yrs 
ago...cuz u can only shock so much and reveal so much until it becomes 

AKASH walks a lot of lines and starts off and remains outside a lot of 
but it is always inside the realm of what it needs to be.

But secretly everyone in AKASH has developed & perfected clones of 

just try to think of them clones as little mini mees running amuck in 
shops to heckle all those slimey, male geetar playas with lotsa loop gear 
play really exclusive and very introspective soundscapes. BTW, Next week 
are targeting stick players and folks with no exposure to Camille Paglia's 
writings...look out cause the mini mees are coming to get you !

& Music does not have to be good or sincere or even well executed for a 
or individual to be successful or well received. 

to be successful & make $$$ at playing music you need to be derrivative, 
the ability for many different outlets of commerce to co-brand your image 
music and have lots of people wanna be like you. & having teenaged girls 
about u in chat rooms will boost record sales too ...we aim for that 
where we can be on the cover of Teeny Bop Sensation Mag & Ms Magazine.

And of course women read books & women dig porn and hang out in coffee 
too...but i have noticed gals are not really into guys that are so into 
themselves and their gizmo gadgets as much as the dudes who can make it 
like that the book they have in their hands is being read especially for 
or the men who can make their gadgets work in areas that hit closer to 
we say a deeper feminine perspective. 

( BTW, I should know about women cuz im in a band and i go to borders but 
tend to like books with pictures ... the ones with staples in em...i read 
more so for the pics than the words :)

AKASH wants to be the dominator of all things that are curmudgingly yours 
Reverend... regardless of like and dislike which seems to have a strong 
on you. 

A little fun and a lot of seduction plus a williness to not be ghettoized 
relgated to a so called community where other people think loop musicians 
should be or look / sound and act like is what i was getting at in my 
post along with reasons why women are tuned off to the loop music in 
( not absolute ) and it was speculation on observations..pure subjective 
speculation that i like to call an opinion :) 

& BTW, I'm located in dwntwn Philly. 

This is a loopey town that is rich with lots of very good and a number of 
very bad musians just like anywhere in a major metro city. and just like 
anywhere else, Philly has the eternal problem of too few places to play 
perform matched against the number of musicians available and interested 
performing and playing.

i would also say the only loop oriented show in Philly where I actually 
saw a 
fair turn-out of women was when David Torn played at a Stars end gathering 
UPENN in 98; ummm, i think it was in 98...but i'm sure there are other 
loopers on the list who were at that show who have better momories than 
one here.

Sorta related here is that another band I play with did a bill with JFK's 
UFO last year @ pi-lam in west philly (im the geetar slinger for temple of 
Bon Matin). 

we were all very impressed by the drum work and loop work the female 
laid out ( andre was killa too ) ..very very very tastey stuff and very 
powerful seeing a female drummer and one that was looping really cool 

Nowadays u do see more women dj's ( trance/drum n bass ) who are doing 
things w/ delay pedals that are kinda cool but there are no women in 
that are looping to my knowledge in the gear heavy manner me and all the 
other boys do  ( bear in mind my knowledge of philly's local scene is 
admittedly very limited concerning detals on whos other than this being 
roots, josh wink and king britt country ). 

Here in philly, loop music is almost always relegated to the realm of the 
experimental...and i hate that definition but not to the point of 
vomiting...so i choose to define or redefine myself in ways that are of my 
choice & need. & that is sorta just like a lot of other loop musicians who 
are doing things loop related in their own necessary ways. 

my other point was that the affectionately dubbed status quo i referred to 
were not really doing anything other than perprtuating themselves and 
gear exhibition upon people/their communities ( not necessarily a bad 
thing...but definitely not my thang and imho never is it musical but 
what is musical is like saying u have a blanket definition for what makes 
something a work of art - good luck analyzing that one  ).

Since when was ambition and inclusiveness such a hard thing to swallow ? 

The answer depends on how you define those 2 words and execute the so 
agenda :)