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We allways have to consider the lurker out there which subscribed because he bought a boomerrang because his voice teacher had told him that it is a good tool to control the quality of the voice. Then he reads all that "loop religion" stuff about playing in strange places, walking away during the piece, "let it play", and twisted sound ambiences. He concludes that there is a lack in his mind and starts exercising polyrithmical voice loops and gets really seasick of it but thinks that this is part of the process and separates from his girlfriend and the music besides of beeing horrible is all that he has left in his lonelyness and then his psychiater discovers all and puts him on some drug and prohibits looping and the lurker becomes fine again and unsubcribes. may never have happened, or we never heard about it :-) ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org