Hi Steuart. I'm a fellow musician and looper, and 
  I play guitar, synths, whatever creating loops. I have played almost every 
  kind of music, apart from country, which I'm studying a bit and some jazz, 
  which I'm practicing now. I've done many loop /noise/ ambient performances, 
  both live and in studio. That just to make a little clear my background. I 
  couldn't follow the performance, living in Italy, but what you (and I mean 
  YOU) tell us is that it wasn't that much of a performance. When I have to play 
  a live session, however I'm feeling at the moment, I try to get to my audience 
  (expecially when I get paid from the audience) the best I can at the 
  moment.  
   
  ** actually, i'd like to clarify 
  a little here: i didn't say too much about my/our own performance in 
  terms of an artistic judgement. i didn't feel that it was 
  appropriate. what i tried to do was give a critique of the rest of the 
  show and then a somewhat factual description of the set that anna and i played 
  - - including where i thought some rhythm and melody and form happened. if 
  you'd like, i can give my viewpoints on what was and wasn't successful about 
  our set; though i'm not sure how much that would help. but no, i didn't think 
  that our set wasn't MUCH. i actually quite liked most of it. again, there were 
  some who were quite complimentary. 
  
   
  And usually, I try to check my instruments before 
  I get to play.
   
   ** my eh 16  had problems after the sound check. why do i need to hear this 
  from you? i tend to pretty professional and i think that you are taking an 
  approach that assumes that i am not. why 
  is that? i resent it if you are.
   
  Talking about the first show you 
  tell:
   
  'joseph hammer: he 
  was ALL looping, it was only an analog tape loop (surprised me actually). used 
  cds (and maybe some other stuff) and fed 'em into a analog tape loop and 
  manipulated manually. interesting at first and quickly became tiring for me. 
  '
   
  Well, is that a loop performance? That is nothing 
  more than every DJ one time or another does in is lifetime (and I play with a 
  DJ), and I think from your comment that it was (at least) a bit self 
  indulgent. I have done that kind of things myself sometimes, but while I was 
  in my studio, working on some background for my musical works, and I tried 
  always to develop that things.
   
  
  ** that was sort of my point. the person who 
  critiqued the evening was upset about there being no looping. what i 
  saw and heard was a guy putting performance media into a looping device 
  and manipulating it.  i didn't 
  say whether or not it was "good" - - only that it had the hallmarks of 
  a looping performance (also it was of interest due to recent commentary 
  on using a tape recorder as a looping device). it was not like many djs i've 
  heard, it was more like musique concrete. as to whether or not it was 
  self-indulgent, i wouldn't even care to characterize it that way. how can 
  i tell if something is self-indulgent. i 
  think that there is a certain component of self-indulgence in almost all 
  music that  is being made as 
  "art" rather than as functional music (dance music, ritual 
  music, funeral music, etc.). my idea of self-indulgence is probably quite 
  different than yours (i find a lot of fusion or prog stuff very 
  self-indulgent, but others think that it's the best stuff). if it means something to the performer and to 
  some of the audience is it only self-indulgent? 
  
   
   
   For the second performance, I can't 
  think that someone who plays guitar for a living cannot understand if someone 
  is really playing or not.  
   
  
  ** 
  here's gary's quote:
  
  "I play guitar and so does she--she mimed real 
  good--but it wasn't live.
  the operative word 
  here is mime - - as in lip-syncing. what i was trying to say was that 
  he was wrong. she didn't mime it, she did "play live" - - i wouldn't say that 
  she played "well" or that i liked it. if you look at my post i merely said 
  that her fingers were hitting the strings (and that sounds was coming 
  out).
  
   And you too told that the performance 
  was of no relevance for you, think about someone who paid to hear some music 
  and get that 
   
   ** well relevance and not liking are two different 
  things - - at least in my book. again, there are films that i've seen that i 
  didn't particularly enjoy and cds that didn't do much for. heck there are 
  friends i've had that are no longer friends. nothing is for sure, you know? i 
  don't quibble with gary's right to be disappointed by the gig. that doesn't 
  bother me; neither does his "bad review" of the proceedings. i only wish 
  to  have a little 
  different viewpoint about it. i suppose that i should reserve the same right 
  to go see him play and be disappointed - - or maybe not.  maybe i'd like it. if i expect 
  something that i don't get, is that my fault or his? 
   
  stig