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Dennis said, <I hear the wind chimes sounds as music because I *intend* to. Thus, the <statement becomes, "One can not listen to music by *accident* <[unintentionally]." It's funny. This is not the first time that it's occured to me that Looping was like solipsism; always returning to itself. The wind chimes are LIKE music. LIKE. Without knowing what *actual music* is [however narrowly or widely we define it] you could not even make this metaphor. The chimes are like music. The sunset is like a picture. The dawn arrived LIKE a hungry child [or do we create a hungry child when we experience morning so]. Also. We all, very often, listen, unintentionally, to crappy music that we didn't *call into being*. I'll change the word to what I wanted it to be originally: *Will*. You don't *will* your chimes into music anymore than you *will* Frank Zappa to come out of your walkman. You did not *will* those porch chimes [and winds and distant trucks and clacking shutters] into being music. They were, and remain, what they are. It sounds like a minor point, but it isn't. In removing the notion of original *will* you leave only yourself to replace it. You ain't the unmoved mover. You make music when you make music. You don't make music when you decide to perceive something pre-existing as music. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.