Re: fretless, gratitude- recommended loop box?

[rich <rich@nuvisionsca.com>]

Thanks for your post, steve.

i'm sure i was responding off the cuff, as well.

i'm just in a new situation learning guitar and theory.  i've been 
playing close to 20 years now (seriously for about 12), and i'm 
completely self taught (both in guitar playing, other instruments and 
electronics).

so i'm sitting in my room, studying this stuff that occasionally 
makes my brain hurt...trying to wrap my head around these ideas...i 
need time to digest it, then manifest it through my fingers. time is 
limited enough, plus with a full time job, wife and other 
priorities....grrrr...

and the loopers i have, plus the other toys are sitting there, 
begging to have their little knobs twirled.  often i find it easier 
to migrate towards them, and get caught up in messing about.  i'm 
also a gear addict making an attempt to kick or at least curb my 
intake.  the theory that i'm learning is difficult for me, but 
ultimately very rewarding.  and it's jus' me and the acoustic guitar.

so i'm sure your comment of "don't simplify, buy everything..." hit 
me wrong, given the headspace i'm in.

thanks for your thoughts!  and you're right...most all in one boxes 
do kinda suck, imo.

>and to your analogies, if you where looking to put together a good band,
>company, family, state or other entity involving multiple people would
you want a handful of identical's or a gestalt of mixed talents

well, hell, i'd want a handful if identical's...jus' like ME!!!  :) 
i'd try to loop myself and hit multiply...oh, damn, that's right, i 
don't have an EDP.

crap. ah, well perhaps lots of analog copies, each with their own 
progressive deterioration and interesting artifacts?  nah, never 
mind, the original is scrambled enough...

best,

rich


>I guess it depends on what your thing is, gearheads who dig cars tend to
>buy a few and have a couple projects going,  I have met people for whom
>sex was the only thing that mattered and yes indeed they did subscribe
>to that point of view, I admit going thru a phase where I felt like that
>myself, if sound is your thing I think trying to simplify may not always
>be the best approach and I was responding to someone who I think was
>looking for a get one thing that does it all aproach and I think that
>will rarely work out.
>I think the looking for that ONE piece of gear that will do it for you
>is as iffy as the buy everyhting that comes your way approach, and the
>scariest part to me is that everyone gets these do it all boxes and all
>start to sound the same, sometimes taking the time to learn the deeper
>aspects of the tools you already have can produce some suprising and
>pleasing results, and in the sound realm simplicity can be powerful but
>I know many will aggree that  sound manipulation can be fun no matter
>how complex it gets
>
>and to your analogies, if you where looking to put together a good band,
>company, family, state or other entity involving multiple people would
>you want a handful of identical's or a gestalt of mixed talents
>
>perhaps I was too off the cuff, how bout this;
>
>the middle road is usually best
>don't over-simplify
>explore your gear
>seek out the sound in your heart regardless of how simple or complex the
>road to it is
>
>send me any gear that is vexxing you and I will use it!
>
>peace,     steve