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Hi Gary, When I first noticed the RC-20 the thing that got me was the over 5 min. loop time. I thought wow I can play an entire piece and then solo over it.... I am fairly new to using and syncing midi devices but I've been looping since the late 70's but only with tape devices and in the studio. Now I would like to perform some solo and duet pieces I've written using looping for 70 to 90% of the performance. I've been able to play in my studio for hours but feel the pieces may be too long for the public (I love to indulge in some of the sounds...). I hope to refine my act this winter while completing the construction of the rest of the studio but it all takes time. I like the RC-20 for several reasons. 1. The loop length. 2. Multiple inputs allow CD,Mic and Inst. 3. I have two cheap Roland on/off pedals mounted to a thin wood plank which allow reverse and next loop location. I am able to record a guitar line, reverse it, add another guitar line so I now have a guitar line going both ways. 4. The size of the unit is relatively small compared to the Echoplex pedal or the Boomerang. 5. It stores 10 loops and 1 one-shot loop. I must admit I have not tried the Boomerang but was intrigued by the ad. I use too many pedals so floor space and loop length won out, but who knows what the future may bring. I like the idea of a repeater in the rack but I would have to free up some floor space before i got the rang. I tried to replace my Mesa Boogie with a Line 6 pod pro but was dissatisfied with the live sound when playing with a full band so I sold it and bought the Echoplex. I wanted to get back to my experimental roots. I originally got turned onto Crimson in 1974 by a classical guitar player which led me to Frippertronics. The two of us and a jazz piano player started a band called "The Velvet Brothers" using tape loops later adding a drum machine but that is another wild, weird story. Anyway, I have been wondering how the other guitarists on this list setup their guitar rig. I use a Fender USA Midi Stratocater with the full band. I put a fishman acoustic bridge in it to further add dimension to the guitar. For the solo act I tried using the SGX 2000 Express with the X-15 pedal that I have in the rack but I can never stray far from the Mesa. The SGX is not as warm or punchy as the mesa and not that far from the Line 6 sound when used live. I was using a Mackie 1202 to combine all my sounds before sending it to the PA, using both the RC and Plex in the effects loop but it seemed to get noisy sometimes so I pulled out the Mackie and plugged directly into the PA head instead (it's a 93 Carvin 400 watt 8 channel Stereo head with speakers and monitors). I now use the Plex on the PA head and the RC on the Carvin Ac. Guitar amp. I've just re-engineered it and the noise seems reduced but I still have to much equipment to carry. I want to eliminate the Mesa for an inline guitar processor. I like the Digitech G2 but the price for the unit with pedal is high for me right now, maybe after the studio walls and wiring are completed. What do others use???? Thanks & Peace to all, Weg From: "Gary Lehmann" <healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RC-20 Post Query Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:11:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [207.228.238.9] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBD70C0D60095400438E6CFE4EE09051D0; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:27:08 -0700 Received: (from looper@localhost)by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14522;Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:11:27 -0400 >From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue, 18 Sep 2001 >09:28:08 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:11:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <LOBBLELOPJEFONCNJBGNOEBJIGAA.healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <F950QUUBPcZi71mrvoG00019328@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <td_S5C.A.1iD.vI3p7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/11860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey There-- I have also pondered adding an additional looper to the Echoplex, and wondered why Weg (and anyone else who cares to reply) would prefer the RC-20 to the Boomerang-- Wish the 'Rang was MIDI (not that the RC-20 is) Gary _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp