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Before I say anything, let me express my regrets at not being able to get good and crazy in Oakland. I have a gig--it's even an appealing gig--that night in San Diego and must miss another excellent opportunity to hang with my loop brethren. So now, let me go on in typical fashion about my latest discovery with the EDP and PMC. Hey, it's great to have a hobby. I've been using a MIDI emulation of the long press of the record button for erasing the current loop. It's a note on with no subsequent note off corresponding to the note value for the record button. This works great, but it takes the EDP a moment for it to realize that no note off will be coming before it kills the loop. So what I did is to also include a volume message of zero with string A, and a subsequent value of 127 with string B, and use the momentary setting. I also just did one with record on string A and multiply on string B--this was in response to one of Andre's postings--you end the first loop with multiply. These will probably also be doable with the Behringer. The great thing about using momentary is that you don't have to shift your weight, or even move your foot, for the second message. Well, that's all--have fun in Oakland, and I look forward to the LoopIV upgrade when it becomes available. Congratulations! Gary