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> i think the problem is that one person's > "musicality" can be another > person's "lame-ass crap." exactly! right on the nose! > also, my reading of the initial post leads me to > feel that there are two > contradictory wishes: one is that evan wants people > to really "delve" into > the gear in a "meaningful way," two is that he felt > bummed when he saw > people "twiddling knobs" - - which sounds a lot like > people delving into > their gear and "playing it like an instrument." > maybe they are doing it, but > the results don't work for you (?). this is true, but allow me to explain further...what i've noticed, and this is not just something that i saw at the open loop - open loopers be not offended (is that why david was so distressed...were you at the open loop and thought i was bashing your experimentation? - couldn't be further from the truth - just trying to use small snippets of various encounters as examples...) is that muscians/loopers had a loop going and rather than focussing on the continuity of the jam/music around them, they allowed their parts to run rampant creating a sound that made me and others in the various places where i witnesses such acts, to cover our ears. there are times when playing with these pieces of gear when they just don't do what we want them to do, wheter it is the fault of the person or the machine...and i was disappointed to see people fiddling with nobs and dials...shifting the pitches and sounds even further into disonance (which is beautiful music at times) with total and complete disregard for the sounds around them. when i say that i was upset to see people turning nobs, i was referring to the idea that rather than be concerned with the overall sound of the jam and EFFECTIVE ways to use the gear...i saw several examples of why people should have to apply for liscences to use the gear...total disregard for the music in the air and the ears being exposed to it... i've had instances where equipment failed on me or i failed on the equipment and my first impulse has always been to yank out some cables and go clean and dry through an amp or PA and save the gear for another time. when something sounds like sh*t, i like to try and resolve the problem and remove the sh*tty aspects to it...not pile it higher. it makes me question whether or not people are just having fun pushing buttons or actually listening (which is the biggest problem with musicians is lack of listening to others aside from yourself...but then again, i come from the phish jam school where music is a collective effort and not a solo thing - and i often forget that not everyone has the same musical values/priorities that i have). i'll try to try my hardest not to reply any more to these...but i can't make any promises, so if you are getting sick of this, please delete any emails from me with musicality subject lines. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/