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Just as a general comment - I love getting gig spams here, but it would be real helpful if everyone would always mention exactly what city we're talking about. More than occasionally, the venue is mentioned, but no city, and I'm sent off to a web search to try to find out where. I know many of you are in with the in looping crowd and it's obvious, but some of the rest of us need hand holding. But it's worth the trouble - As a result of a message here, I went yesterday to see the Paul Dresher Ensemble (that would have been in San Francisco, BTW!) and although there was only a little bit of looping, the whole show was really quite interesting and entertaining. Bob At 02:01 PM 4/29/2002, you wrote: >okay, so maybe i'm slightly retarted or mentally >challenged as the pc people prefer, but am i mistaken >or is there a knitting factory in cali? Robert Sweetriver Bellus Sweetriver Sounds - "Rediscovering Native American Flute" sweetriver@naflute.com www.naflute.com POB 1010, Calistoga, CA 94515 707.942.0101 Performance and Booking Information: http://www.naflute.com/ss/RSB.htm