Re: sample based looping vs. delay looping

[Mark Landman <mlandman@sonic.net>]

Lance-

This is a known weakness of the Repeater. Unlike the EDP, Repeater isn't as adept at seamlessly creating an ambient drone in one step. 

One workaround that might help, If you create your loop on Repeater first, (i.e. don't lay any sound down, just create a loop to set the length), then overdub afterward, you'll get better results. Since you can store loops on Repeater, this should be practical.

Mark

On Thursday, August 8, 2002, at 08:43 AM, Lance Chance wrote:



> I have a Gibson echoplex and I just acquired an electrix repeater.   One of my primary goals in looping is to create multitimbral sustained ambient drones.  the echoplex does this very nicely with no pops or other artifacts that occur as you record over the start point of your loop.   I was hoping to get a more versatile (and stereo) version of this same ability in the repeater.  Unfortunately, this was not to be. After some experimentation, I discovered that on overdub, as a drone or sustained note was recorded over the start point, there was a distinct artifact (a popping sound sometimes, an amplitude inconsistency others).  I finally decided that this was because the echoplex is based on a delay architecture rather than a sampler/recorder architecture like the repeater. I think what is happening in the repeater is that on overdub the sample is actually mixed and resampled with each pass rather than the more traditional method of creating an infinite delay loop.
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> The whole point of this is to ask these questions: Am I right or just not using my repeater correctly?  Is there a stereo delay type looper out there in production or easily available?  Are all "dj" oriented loopers (djrnd3, red sound) like this? And finally, is this a quality that loopers should address when reviewing devices for wonderful and informative sites such as this one?
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> thanx,
> lance