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In my example no function is shared across one "button." I think you catch my drift. Let me try this another way again -- because the hardware interface on the Repeater is different, you tend to THINK and DO things differently. I'm not saying better, just different. Because the hardware interface is different, you can do different things than on the EDP, right?. My point is, if the face-plate hardware of the EDP could evolve once to "catch up" with the software, what would you and Kim like to see to make things easier for first-time buyers? The EDP is so rich in functionality -- yet a user who buys one with the Loop IV software will need TWO "manuals" to understand how to get into it. Looks like that DVD tutorial is a must have for new EDP buyers. I'd suggest one ships with every EDP box! David P.S> Evolving hardware is much harder (ouch!) than evolving the software I know.