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I recently had the same dilemma with the Ground Control and the Repeater. While the Ground Control is plenty sophisticated to control my guitar rack (MIDI pre-amp, Multi-FX,Gtr synth) AND Repeater's functions--the fact is that it was just too much tap dancing to use in real life. Unless you have planned set and are REALLY organized about the way you program your pdl brd, it's a nightmare. I typically have abnk or 2 of GTR patches followed by a bank or 2 syth patches-then a bank or 2 Repeater functions. (OK there's my synth pad--now scroll up 4 banks and hit record...no way...) I found I always wanted the looping functions available. I wound up using both the Ground Control for the stuff it always did and a Begringer FCB1010 for the Repeater. Sure, it looks like Mission Contrl on the floor in front of me--but it sure works well... I'd be interested to hear what you come up with. Cheers, Rob Michael Rob_Michael_2002@yahoo.com <From:"john smith" <ninertriplezero@email.com> <Subject:Question concering midi foot controller <Hi there, <I'm a guitarist using looping and play back in my live <shows. Until now, I managed to get by using an old <foot controller made by Digital Music Corporation <called 'Ground Control' (limited to program change <messages). Here's the catch, I recently picked up an <Echoplex. As you know, I'll need a more sophisticated <Midi control device to 'talk' to the Echoplex. That's <fine but I want to make sure that whatever midi <controller I buy is capable of sending simple program <change messages to the old devices as well as the more <complicated info to the Echoplex. Does anyone have suggestions concerning a control device which will facilitate my needs? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com