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If i had all the items that you put out here Dennis, i would do that comparison TONIGHT. But, alas, i don't even have a sound-worthy computer just yet (spent my $$ on a house and car this year), so that will have to wait. In the meantime, its working for me, either for oblong loops or straight-time ones. Perhaps, i have just learned to work with the delay, if there is one and adjust my timing to make it work? Anywho, once i get the uber-PC, i will check the comparison, because i now HAVE to know. cheers, jim. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mail.worldserver.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:19 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Unidentified sub actually MIDI peds > I guess i'd have to do a side-by-side test of the two pedals, or is there > another way of confirming this 'delay' which i have not noticed to this > point? I'd love to see some hard data on the delay. You up for some experimenting, Jim? Here's my suggestion (straight-forward but probably better ways of doing this): Put the MFC-10 beside another MIDI pedal. (In my case, I'd probably use a EDP EFC-7 and configure the EDP to send MIDI note-on/off.) Place the pedals so you can press them reasonably simultaneously. Connect the MIDI outputs of both to a computer interface (possibly through a merge box). Use a MIDI monitor like MIDI-OX to capture the MIDI messages with timestamps so we can accurately measure any time delay. I volunteer to collect data, but somebody will have to loan me an MFC-10. :) Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mail.worldserver.com