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> First of all, I'm certainly NOT always recording. A big, big part of > what I do has to do with taking material that's been recorded and then > "bumping it around," by switching between loops, windowing, changing > direction and playback speed, remultiplying, or redefining the length of > the loop. What I meant was that during your performances there's always a part where your guitar signal is digitized and put into a memory buffer and then at some time later played back. Recording, no? So if a loop is a phrase repeated, and you manipulate the playback so it no longer is a representation of the original phrase, is it a loop? Isn't a true loop is a repeating phrase? When we say "loop" what we're talking about really is "tape loop." A physical object. But that physical object is now gone (usually), replaced by another physical object, a big ol' memory buffer. Iron oxide replace by silicon RAM chips. Since the RAM doesn't have the limitations of the loop of tape, people like Matthais created software that let's you do all sorts of minipulation of this buffer... to the point where it's just so far away from the "tape loop" that it no longer is described by that word. Or... you can use it in a way that's exactly like a tape loop. I do know one thing, you can't take a chunk out of a tape and edit it back in somewhere else in real time. I saw a performance where a woman wearing a "data glove" was controlling a laptop running Steim's LiSa program. She had it set up so that she could use a gesture to capture her accompaniest (a sax player) and then spit it back out at a later time. Was she looping? LiSa is certainly an audio looper with realtime capabilities. Now, there was usually a time period after the recording was made and before the sample was played back. Is that gap what made it not looping? I'm not sure. I dont' think it was really looping though, but the description of filling a buffer and having it spit back out is more like what you're doing, no? Maybe the fact that it's automated and you HAVE to have it play back in some way is the difference? Again, back to the juggling analogy. Is it all about the "enevitability" of your signal coming back to haunt you when the buffer length is defined? Is that the "essence" of it all? Maybe. Mark Sottilaro P.S. Andre, you're all that and a bag of chips.