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Quoting "JAMES FOWLER, III" <jimfowler@prodigy.net>: > i would stick with your edps for looping...you're > gonna have a hard time beating the flexibility of the > unit within the idiom. plus, a pair of > orvilles...that's nearly 10 grand!!! no, he wouldn't need a pair. he'd just need one. Mr Redenbacher has 2 seperate DSP units in it, each capable of looping and processing. there is no way to do feedback between the two blocks unfortunately (well, not in stereo). i think that the DSP7500 may be more appropriate for looping/processing, as it is much cheaper (3 grand). 3 grand for eventide vs 3 grand for stereo exoplechen and harmoniser/pcm/whatever unit. it's kind of a wash when you look at it that way. i prefer separate units for different signal processes but i'm not decided on my next looping solution. if you NEVER use multiply, reverse, undo whatnot it could work great. if you rely on them it wouldn't. i'm sure Italo can pipe in with an explanation of how to do multiply (possibly reverse, i don't know if the reverse delay module can use the full sampler memory like the LongDelay module can). i see no way you could do Undo effectively though. i never use undo, never store my loops, and rarely use multiply. i don't know what i'm going to do. the Expensive Expansive Gibson Looper is the BEST USER INTERFACE DESIGN FOR A REALTIME LOOP/DELAY but i think that it's overpriced for 2003. when i first looked into getting an EDP for myself back in 1996, the price that the local music store gave me was 390 bucks. when i finally got the money together to order one it had risen to 580. it is now TWICE what i was originally quoted. that is not following inflation. i remember an email exchange i had with a nice man who works at Trace Elliot. he told me the reason the price was so ridiculous for the EDP was that because the design dates to 1992, many of the components are NLA or very expensive. most other manufacturers would find a more cost-effective way to build more units, as continuing to support hardware which uses unobtanium components is not taking the long term into healthy consideration. he said he was trying to get the price down by buying components en masse, which would lower their per-unit parts cost. what happens when you run out of those parts? you've bought all you can find. the law of supply and demand (and the nature of business: if you can sell it for that price, don't lower the price) say that the price of the EDP will continue to stay high or even rise higher! eventually it will become more cost-effective to buy an Eventide for looping. why doesn't Eventide licence the LOOPIV software for a module inside the Orville/DSP series? i think there are alot of people who would scrape together 3 grand to buy a 24/96 LoopDelay with premium effects processing built in. they can scrape together 1700 (including 2 Aurisis ROMs) for a stereo echoplex ... --- Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/