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Yeah ditto unfortunately same story I paid £420 for my edp street price now is £900 I would buy another if it was still £420 ahh well guess I'll just wait to see if the new distributers don't promote them and end up flogging them cheap! Geoff on 30/3/03 1:51 pm, Eric Williamson at erwill@suitandtieguy.com wrote: > Quoting "JAMES FOWLER, III" <jimfowler@prodigy.net>: >> i would stick with your edps for looping...you're >> gonna have a hard time beating the flexibility of the >> unit within the idiom. plus, a pair of >> orvilles...that's nearly 10 grand!!! > > no, he wouldn't need a pair. he'd just need one. Mr Redenbacher has 2 >seperate > DSP units in it, each capable of looping and processing. there is no way >to do > feedback between the two blocks unfortunately (well, not in stereo). > > i think that the DSP7500 may be more appropriate for looping/processing, >as it > is much cheaper (3 grand). > > 3 grand for eventide vs 3 grand for stereo exoplechen and > harmoniser/pcm/whatever unit. > > it's kind of a wash when you look at it that way. > > i prefer separate units for different signal processes but i'm not >decided on > my next looping solution. > > if you NEVER use multiply, reverse, undo whatnot it could work great. if >you > rely on them it wouldn't. i'm sure Italo can pipe in with an explanation >of > how > to do multiply (possibly reverse, i don't know if the reverse delay >module can > use the full sampler memory like the LongDelay module can). i see no way >you > could do Undo effectively though. > > i never use undo, never store my loops, and rarely use multiply. i don't >know > what i'm going to do. the Expensive Expansive Gibson Looper is the BEST >USER > INTERFACE DESIGN FOR A REALTIME LOOP/DELAY but i think that it's >overpriced > for > 2003. when i first looked into getting an EDP for myself back in 1996, >the > price that the local music store gave me was 390 bucks. when i finally >got the > money together to order one it had risen to 580. it is now TWICE what i >was > originally quoted. that is not following inflation. > > i remember an email exchange i had with a nice man who works at Trace >Elliot. > he told me the reason the price was so ridiculous for the EDP was that >because > the design dates to 1992, many of the components are NLA or very >expensive. > most other manufacturers would find a more cost-effective way to build >more > units, as continuing to support hardware which uses unobtanium >components is > not taking the long term into healthy consideration. > > he said he was trying to get the price down by buying components en >masse, > which would lower their per-unit parts cost. what happens when you run >out of > those parts? you've bought all you can find. the law of supply and >demand (and > the nature of business: if you can sell it for that price, don't lower >the > price) say that the price of the EDP will continue to stay high or even >rise > higher! > > eventually it will become more cost-effective to buy an Eventide for >looping. > > why doesn't Eventide licence the LOOPIV software for a module inside the > Orville/DSP series? i think there are alot of people who would scrape >together > 3 grand to buy a 24/96 LoopDelay with premium effects processing built >in. > they > can scrape together 1700 (including 2 Aurisis ROMs) for a stereo >echoplex ... > > --- > Eric Williamson > www.suitandtieguy.com > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ >