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>From: "Steve Lawson" <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> I'll never buy an unlined fretless bass... Ah...Steve, I know what you mean. My new fretless five string is unlined (!), and I am going thru that very challenge of being in tune. Oddly..playing high is actually easier (perhaps my ears can discern the pitch better?). It is getting better. The positive aspect of all this is just how acute my sense of pitch, and time, have become thru all the work I have been doing on the fretless. As a challenge and excecise in all of this I have been recording parts..mostly simple melodies...and then trying to double track them. Listening back I am finding where the "probelm areas" are. It is a rather difficult task, and it makes me appreciate and respect Mick Karn even more....... Max _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail