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Re: Nearly there: EDP Individual loop muting?

At 07:28 AM 7/6/2003, Paul Sanders wrote:
>But, laying awake in bed last night I think I figured out how to do this.
>Just be sure to use loop copy when adding a new loop for the rhythm 
>guitar, then
>when turning off the guitar part, switch back to the first loop without 

That's the idea. It doesn't do truly multi-track loops. You accomplish 
similar results using Overdub, Multiply, LoopCopies, Undo, etc.

>The logic there is a bit less elegant though.

It is a different way of thinking than a recording studio, which is the 
most people are used to thinking about multiple recorded parts. It isn't 
more or less elegant, just more tuned to a completely different sort of 

The recording studio approach gives you tremendous flexibility and 
The trouble with the recording studio approach is it becomes very 
cumbersome and awkward to perform live, while you are otherwise engaged in 
playing instruments and entertaining an audience. It takes too many button 
presses, too many things to look at and keep track of, and too much time 
execute the basic stuff most people need to do. As you scale up to more 
tracks the problems for a performer grow exponentially.

The "psuedo-multitrack" approach that the echoplex and other loopers use 
was developed entirely in a live performance context. It is meant to be 
efficient, fast, and seamless for real-time operation. It doesn't have 
unlimited flexibility, but it is much more efficient and easy to manage 
while performing. For example, what if you want to create 16 tracks of 
layered percussion? On the Echoplex you just turn Overdub on and keep 
playing. If it turns out you really wanted 17, that's fine just leave 
overdub on a little longer. Most of your concentration is on the 
instrument, while the looper handles the details of how it is recorded. In 
a recording studio, for each layer you are arming different tracks, 
rerouting signals, moving faders and knobs, etc. If you run out of tracks 
you have start bouncing and it gets more complicated. That's a lot of 
concentration not devoted to playing the instrument.

The studio gives you the flexibility to manipulate each specific layer so 
you can spend hours tweaking it very carefully to get the mix you want, 
which is perfect for recording. but not very many audiences would want to 
watch that and most people don't try to do it live. In performance most 
musicians have much more straightforward needs that are easily met by the 
looper approach without interfering with their playing. Once you get used 
to thinking about it in different terms, you'll see how fast and easy it 


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