Re: midi looper

[mark <sine@zerocrossing.net>]

Interesting, but other than the fact that I have to specify the length  
of my loops, when I loop on my sequencer I don't have an issue with  
this.  Could be because the sequencer has it's own sound source and  
isn't using MIDI internally.  That would actually make a lot of sense  
for "grooveboxes" and the like.  Why limit yourself with MIDI until you  
reach the outside world?  I could, of course, but totally wrong.  All I  
know is that I'm seemingly able to hold a note at the start of a phrase  
and release it somewhere in it's 2nd iteration with no issues other  
than the sound will stop the first time until it gets to the first  
event stop.  After that it seems to play a perfect loop.

Mark Sottilaro

On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 12:47  PM, Chris Roberts wrote:

> just to toss in a couple of cents on the topic of looping midi, the  
> difference
> (one could consider it as problem) between looping midi and looping  
> audio,
> is that synthesisers interpret a midi note command as an event with a  
> start
> and a stop, and if you recieve a start, prior to the stop, it consider  
> that
> to be an implied stop, so, if you loop some midi, and if there is a  
> note
> that is sustained long enough for the loop to come back around, the  
> looped
> midi will imply the end (and new begining) of the note being  
> sustained...
> as well as running into possible polyphony issues as the density of the
> loop increases.. now, these issue do not make midi looping impossible,  
> but,
> it will never react the same way as audio looping... :)
>
> peace
> -cpr
>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: RE: midi looper
>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:10:28 +0100
>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>>
>>>> Speaking of midi loopers, I continue to be amazed that no-one has
>> created a box that does EDP/Repeater-style looping for Midi.  It seems
> a
>> much easier task than looping audio.  Is there a perception that  
>> there's
>> no market for it?  Or is there something out there of which I'm not
>> aware?  (please, please, please say "yes" !!!!)<<
>>
>> you'd think..... I've been looking for something to do this, for as  
>> long
>> as I can remember, to complement my band's array of step-sequencing  
>> hardware.
>> the nearest things I've found that even hinted at this eliusive  
>> functionality
>> have been the anatek pocket sequencer (mine stopped working before I  
>> could
>> try this out properly) and the record/overdub mode (monophonic) on my  
>> doepfer
>> schaltwerk. the alesis mmt8 doesn't seem to like being punched in and  
>> out
>> of record while it's running. a digigram hardware sequencer I had for  
>> a
> while
>> made a reasonable attempt at it, but only while running as master  
>> clock,
>> unsuitable for my (then) requirements, so I got rid. wish I'd kept it  
>> now,
>> it was clever.
>> bah.
>>
>> duncan.
>>
>>
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