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Re: GNX-3/Repeater Questions



Matt,
 
Thanks for the welcome. I'll have to check out your mp3s . . . I'm on dial up at the moment, so it will take me a little while.
 
I got the Jam Mans to do stereo by using a y splitter cable that allowed me to use two of the stereo cords that you use for the little plastic Lexicon footswitches, but merged through the one stereo line.
 
So, basically, I ran one stereo cord to the footswitch control of each Jam Man on the one end, then ran the other ends to the stereo splitter cable. The splitter I got accepts stereo inputs and then has a male cord on the other end that was also stereo. The "y" part of the connection then plugs into just one Lexicon footswitch, and you can just use that one footswitch to run both loopers at the same time.
 
In essence, this gives you "non-midi" syncing of the two loopers from one pedal. It works like brother-sync on the EDP, although "y" syncing will occassionaly lead to some "drifting" effects between the two Jam Mans. "Y" syncing does the trick, although itís not quite as percise as brother sync (hence the occasional drifting).
 
I only ever used the "y" syncing with the start/stop control for recording/overdubbing, but if you have two Jam Mans, two stereo cords, and two of the Lexicon pedals, I'll bet you could get two additional stereo cords, two of the stereo to stereo "y" splitters, and then be able to have both Jam Man foot switch options word in "y sync together at the same time on both machines. Like I said, I never tried it, but if it worked for the start/stop pedal connections, it should work for the other connections too.
 
I don't remember where I ended up buying the "y" splitter that I got (that was back in 1995)--I would have either bought it at Radio Shack or Guitar Center; I also think that possibly Musician's Friend might sell them.
 
Hope my answer made sense. Smiley emoticon
 
Thanks,
 
David
----- Original Message -----
From: msottilaro
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: GNX-3/Repeater Questions

Welcome to the list David.

If you do a search on the Repeater and seamless loops on the archives, you'll probably come up with volumes on this topic. I'll give you the Reader's Digest version.

Yes, the Repeater does exactly what you're asking of it. No delay. Just like a JamMan, which was my first MIDI syncable looper. However, there is a tiny volume bump at the loop start point. How tiny? I never, ever hear it. Is it there? Sure is. If I play a single sine wave with no attack or volume change into the Repeater, I can hear it. Others here trying to do drones have complained about it. I've posted two tracks on http://www.mp3.com/0crossing The first one is JamMan looping, the second is all Repeater.

How did you get two JamMans to do stereo?

Mark Sottilaro

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 08:38 AM, David Durian wrote:

Hello. I am a new poster to the list, although I have actually been reading various parts of the entire Looper's Delight site for the last 4 years. I've been looping since 1994, when I got my first Lexicon Jam Man. For most of the 90s, I used to Jam Mans for stereo looping, although I switched to using Echoplex Digital Pro Pluses for stereo looping about a year ago.
 
Anyhow, I was writing to ask a couple of questions I was having trouble getting answered just by looking through the site and by searching the mailing list archive.
 
a) I'm thinking about getting a repeater to supplement my EDPs, and I was wondering--does the Repeater do seamless looping if you play an eight bar measure and then, at the end of the eighth bar, you press the record button to start the loop? In other words, does the audio play straight through without any "skipping sounds" or "gaps" in the audio?
 
By seamless here, I mean simply the sound--I understand that the Repeater will not start the loop and go immediately into overdub mode (like the EDP), making it more like the old Jam Man in this way, which is how some use the term "seamless." My concern is that the looper make no skipping sound if I want to do a "direct loop" this way. This is how I mean to use "seamless" in this context.
 
I currently own a GNX-3 that was supposed to work as a full-function looper, but it has this problem where it doesn't do the kind of seamless loop to which I refer above unless you set up an empty "dummy track" ahead of time, and then, after the "blank track" is recorded, you can do a "live" seamless loop. Which isn't really live the way I describe it (live to me means the Jam Man or EDP, and possibly the Repeater(?)) . . . 
 
Someone on the Digitech site suggested the "dummy track" solution I just mentioned, and he made it sound like people had to do the same thing on the Repeater to get it to work right with this type of seamless loop . . .this is why I needed to ask. <image.tiff>
 
b) Anyone else out there using the GNX-3 for looping? I haven't seen much about it on this Web site (no reviews, for example), and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it?
 
The lack of seamless looping on it as a default setting is somewhat annoying, although I can work around it. Or maybe I'm just missing something in set up and you can actually get it to do it?
 
Thanks,
 
David Durian