Re: Tia's looping plug-in (was: Using computers as a Live Looper- software alternatives)

["Tias" <tias@condomo.com>]

Now THAT'S indeed a definite feature that isn't über-hard to implement. Ok
hold that thought, what i'll do is, when i start the Beta-testing phase 
i'll
put up a messageboard for everyone so i'll have a good way to keep track of
feature-suggestions.

But this one is definitly not hard to implement i think. I'm allready
keeping track of start-point and end-point so making these editable by
parameters should be a breeze, allthough the parameter-specification in the
VST-SDK states that a parameter can only go between 0.0 and 1.0 so i'll 
have
to do some percentage-conversion there based on the entire looplength. Ahh,
i'll come up with something nifty there i think.

Just remember, my mainconcern for this plugin is that the user-interface
might get cluttered in the end so too many visible parameters = clutter, 
but
i'm thinking that maybe parameter representation for live-looping is best
done with only visible (fake) LCD-numbers and not loads of drawbars that 
you
can manipulate with the mouse. How's that for a thought? You see, this 
would
emphasize that the plugin is to be used with external Midi-controllers. ;)

/Tias

----- Original Message -----
From: "Per Boysen" <per@boysen.se>
To: "Loopers" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Tia's looping plug-in (was: Using computers as a Live Looper-
software alternatives)


> On 04-01-21 11.19,  "Tias" <tias@condomo.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually Per, i've been thinking of having both ways possible but right
now
> > it's the first way, i.e. the plugin will wait untill the end of the 
>loop
and
> > then start recording a new loop-length.
> >
> > What i'm also thinking is that maybe it would be nice to have an
> > "auto-duplicate" (kind of like the multiply-function on the EDP), so
that if
> > the plugin goes into Record Loop Length and it reaches the endpoint of
the
> > last recorded length, then as it should it continues beyond that point
> > playing only silence at the moment, but i'm thinking it could be cool 
>to
> > autorepeat the last loop so you can do multiplication by 1.5 or so.
Anyway,
> > that will be a feature also. ;)
> >
> > /Mattias
>
>
> You know what!
>
> --> 1 "Loop point parameter"
> One thing that would be tremendously cool is to be able to adjust the 
>loop
> point on the fly. I'm talking about the point when it goes back to play 
>it
> back from the beginning. If "loop point" is a parameter it will come up 
>as
> midi cc assignable under Ableton Live and you could adjust it on the fly
> from a midi expression pedal. Quantized in steps or not quantize (which 
>of
> course will bring any rhythmic loop out of phase with the beat (but that
> might just be the point ;-)
>
> --> 2 "Loop start parameter"
> Now imagine that you can do the same also to the loop start point.
>
> --> 3 "Loop segment parameter"
> And finally imagine you can address both the start point and the loop
point
> as a "loop segment". This parameter moves start point and loop point
> together through the sound file, keeping the loop length fixed.
>
> With the "part three" stuff you should be able to do a lot of interesting
> sounds. Imagine setting the loop time very short, not necessarily to a
> quantize value, and sweep the looping segment through the sound file from
an
> expression pedal, a fader or some knob. And then, while doing this, you
> might as well increase the loop point value to make the loop longer.
>
> --> 4 "Home parameter"
> After glitching away into complete rhythmic anarchy, by playing the loop
at
> a lot of non quantized lengths, you can immediately get back into sync on
> the down beat by bringing the start- and loop point back to their 
>original
> values. It would be nice with a button for this "original loop length",
> because such a button would then be accessible from external midi via
Live.
> "Original loop lenghth" can simply eqyal the entire soundfile as it was
> recorded - if that would make program coding simpler.
>
> Welll.... I'll shut up now ;-)
>
> pboy
>