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I've got a MPX100 now, and it's a good little cheap processor... but it has another function in my studio. I've decided on a Korg Pandora PX4. While it does not seem as tweakable as a number of other solutions, it gives you a bunch of effects at once, which I later realized was important. I really like the ability to add some chorus/phase, reverb and maybe some delay. Most cheap solutions give you 2 effects max. My dream/goal is to gig out of a single duffel bag and I'm pretty much there. Here's the special ops rig: Steinberger 6 string into Vox Tonelab SE into mixer Effect send out into EH16DDmk2 into Korg PX4 (which I hope to velcro to the EH16) into mixer effect return (I may skip this stage) Midi out of EH16 into E-MU XL-7 which also has audio outs to mixer. So all in all that's 6 things to deal with including the guitar. Not bad. If I can get the PX4 velcroed and semi perminately affixed to the EH16 it will seem like even less. My one issue (and there's always an issue) is that the XL-7 is a TANK. Great sequencer/groovebox but it's a big steel yellow box. I thought about maybe a used electribe for stage use only... but I don't do a lot of shows. Probably not enough to warrent another purchase. I kind of like things to have a double duty so I can at least use them in the studio when I'm not gigging. One of the other great things about the EH16 for me, is that now I can have someone over and give them their own looper. I used to do this with a vocalist and a second Repeater, but I had mixed results. I think the Repeater was too complex. (damn that girl LOVED to turn on the metronome by accident!) One thing I'm noticing about the EH16DDmk2 is that there is a fidelity change. At first I thought it was just the monoization of my signal, but upon more careful listening I can hear a high end loss for sure. It's not gritty or grundgy or anything, just a bit duller. Music gear marketing people would call it "warmer." It's fine in my world for this purpose, but going back to my Repeater afterwards was like putting on glasses after spending time with blurry vision. Mark On Jul 4, 2004, at 1:50 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Since I think Mark has the DM4, it's probably reasonable to say that > if you like the DM4, then you will probably like the MM4 for > modulation effects. It almost certainly is not up the standards of the > TC SCF, but it covers a broader range of effects and does so > reasonably competently. So, one of the things you need to ask yourself > is how much range you need. Do you want a great chorus or do you want > several pretty good effects. > > Finally, if you are putting the EH16 on a table top, you could > presumably put a Vortex on the same table. Bill Frisell totes an > MPX100 around and uses it without a rack. My SansAmp + Vortex > combination is tempting me to sell a bunch of stuff except for liking > the notion of being able to gig with no rack which doesn't really work > once you go past one rack item. > > Mark >