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RE: EDP Hiss



I've noticed the same phenomenon with my two EDPs.  It is a slight
annoyance for recording, but I've learned to live with it. Sometimes
when I master my live recordings, I use a de-hisser.  Actually, I found
this hiss very disappointing, given how much EDPs cost...my old Boss
RC-20 was absolutely silent.  As you say, the EDPs are quiet when you
record, then when you hit the record button again and the first loop
starts to play, the hiss comes in.  Sadly, this will probably wear on me
psychologically over time and I'll end up looking for a new looping
device, either computer- based, or some new single, stereo rack mount
looper that comes out.....didn't someone in this list mention a new unit
coming out in the market?

The crazy thing is that I have a rack full of effects, from old Lexicon
LXPs to the VF-1, and none produce a hiss like the EDPs....and it's both
EDPs, so it's not like one is defective.  I've tried all sorts of
experiments as well....higher input levels, higher or lower output
levels on the EDPs, running them in the AUX channel of my board and
running the mix at max, etc, etc...all just ineffective ways to mask the
underlying problem.  The problem is accentuated by the fact that I play
very clean...either acoustic guitar, or jazz guitar clean. I'm not using
any distortion that is noisy to begin with....when I'm playing a
delicate acoustic guitar melody with really low dynamics and then loop
it, that's when the ugly head of HISS is most apparent. 

And I don't even use the full capabilities of the EDPs.  I use Record,
Multiply, Overdub, Mute, and Insert for Reverse....nothing else. If I
could find a single rack stereo unit that did this, I'd sell both of my
EDPs.

I'll be awaiting any clever responses to this thread. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Combs [mailto:tcombs@sep.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:59 AM
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: EDP Hiss


Hey EDP gurus

I've been experiencing some significant hiss during loop playback.  I've

tried swapping memory around - no success.  The hiss is present even 
when I record a loop with the input level at minimum.  The hiss is not 
present while recording, but it appears immediately after the second 
press of RECORD to start loop playback.  The hiss goes away when I set 
the MIX to dir.  It gets louder as I more the MIX to loop.

My EDP has always been hissy - I don't know if it's gotten worse lately 
or if I'm more tuned into it.  I guess this could be normal behavior for

the EDP, but I can't imagine this much noise being acceptable to the 
looping community.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Tom