Re: EDP Hiss

[Tom Combs <tcombs@sep.com>]

Wow...that's disappointing.  I've been thinking about moving to 
laptop-based loopers (perhaps Mobius or Sooperlooper).  My noisy EDP has 
really been grating on me lately.


Krispen Hartung wrote:

>I've noticed the same phenomenon with my two EDPs.  It is a slight
>annoyance for recording, but I've learned to live with it. Sometimes
>when I master my live recordings, I use a de-hisser.  Actually, I found
>this hiss very disappointing, given how much EDPs cost...my old Boss
>RC-20 was absolutely silent.  As you say, the EDPs are quiet when you
>record, then when you hit the record button again and the first loop
>starts to play, the hiss comes in.  Sadly, this will probably wear on me
>psychologically over time and I'll end up looking for a new looping
>device, either computer- based, or some new single, stereo rack mount
>looper that comes out.....didn't someone in this list mention a new unit
>coming out in the market?
>
>The crazy thing is that I have a rack full of effects, from old Lexicon
>LXPs to the VF-1, and none produce a hiss like the EDPs....and it's both
>EDPs, so it's not like one is defective.  I've tried all sorts of
>experiments as well....higher input levels, higher or lower output
>levels on the EDPs, running them in the AUX channel of my board and
>running the mix at max, etc, etc...all just ineffective ways to mask the
>underlying problem.  The problem is accentuated by the fact that I play
>very clean...either acoustic guitar, or jazz guitar clean. I'm not using
>any distortion that is noisy to begin with....when I'm playing a
>delicate acoustic guitar melody with really low dynamics and then loop
>it, that's when the ugly head of HISS is most apparent. 
>
>And I don't even use the full capabilities of the EDPs.  I use Record,
>Multiply, Overdub, Mute, and Insert for Reverse....nothing else. If I
>could find a single rack stereo unit that did this, I'd sell both of my
>EDPs.
>
>I'll be awaiting any clever responses to this thread. 
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Combs [mailto:tcombs@sep.com] 
>Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:59 AM
>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: EDP Hiss
>
>
>Hey EDP gurus
>
>I've been experiencing some significant hiss during loop playback.  I've
>
>tried swapping memory around - no success.  The hiss is present even 
>when I record a loop with the input level at minimum.  The hiss is not 
>present while recording, but it appears immediately after the second 
>press of RECORD to start loop playback.  The hiss goes away when I set 
>the MIX to dir.  It gets louder as I more the MIX to loop.
>
>My EDP has always been hissy - I don't know if it's gotten worse lately 
>or if I'm more tuned into it.  I guess this could be normal behavior for
>
>the EDP, but I can't imagine this much noise being acceptable to the 
>looping community.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>Tom
>
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