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From watching TalkBass, and listening to (young) musicians I know, they love the Digitech and Boss like crazy. Much more than any of the serious loopers -- even the DL4. What they want to do, by and large, is jam over their changes, and these pedals do that just fine. If you can save your changes, so much the better. I think that these boxes aren't made for _us_; we represent probably, just a guess here, .01% of the market. On Oct 14, 2005, at 7:22 AM, David Morton wrote: > On 10/14/05, Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Again, I'd love to talk to the project manager for the JamMan or the >> Loop Station and ask them what their use cases where when they were >> finalizing the design. >> > > Is not the key point here - at least in the case of the Boss pedal - > what they chose to call it? Their own sales material calls it a > "Phrase Recorder" > > http://www.bossus.com/index.asp?pg=1&tmp=137 > > while the original RC20 was called the Loop Station. It seems to me > that in changing the name there was an attempt to define its intended > market more clearly. >