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Just have been searching at a local music store's website for the word "pro". 1544 hits. Some examples: * lots of Behringer stuff (I think all the rackmount ones) * a few Line6 products (the rackmount ones) * a few Mackie mixers * software (e.g. Logic Pro, Acid Pro) * different headphones (Sennheiser, Beyer, Stanton) * turntable pickubs by Ortofon * a lowprice company named SM Pro Audio * a drumstick company named Pro Mark * a supercheap guitar pseudobrand named Pro Arte * a few products by Focusrite * a few products by K&M (stands) * amps by Ampeg * guitars by BC Rich * a cheap mike by Audio Technika * JBL speakers * a Furman power conditioner * speakers by Eminence * interfaces by Marian * entertainer keyboards by Korg * a few preamps by Fishman * PA cabinets by Dynacord * Vestax, Numark and Allen&Heath DJ mixers * a cheap €3k upright * DiMarzio, EMG, Seymour Duncan pickups * harmonicas by Hohner * stuff by Presonus * cheap speakers by Edirol * some in-ear phones by Ultimate Ears Summary: for some companies, "pro" means "rackmount" - I think Behringer took the hint from Line6. For software, "Pro" means the same program with more features. Higher quality? I don't think so. For many companies, "pro" means targeted at DJs (see Allen&Heath, Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic). for some companies, "pro" means "cheap stuff with lots of features" (see Focusrite - they have some pro gear all right, but it's not called "pro"). For Ampeg, similar to the software companies, it seems to mean "lots of features". So we're as wise as before: Some companies never call their products "pro", with these, you have a good chance to get pro gear (ever seen a Rosetta Pro or SLAM Pro or GML 9500 Pro?). With all the others, you never know... Rainer -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: stanitarium@earthlink.net [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net] Gesendet: Montag, 17. Oktober 2005 07:18 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: Defining "pro" i think i saved this from the loopersdelight archive-but dont have the poster's name: quote..."'Amateur' tradionally meant "one who does something for the love of it" (from the Latin amator-amatus:lover-to love) as opposed to the secular meaning of 'professional' as "one who does something for gain." the term "professional" has become so debased that whenever i see a product named w/ the prefix "pro" i automatically assume it is inferior."...unquote dont know who wrote it, but its cool w/ me. s > Someone once told me... > > "A professional does for money what an amateur does for the love of > it." > > Tony > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sonic steph" <ml@dadaprod.org> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: Defining "pro" > > >> Per Boysen a écrit : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I completely agree with Travis' definition of "pro". A funny >>> definition of amateur is one who calls himself "pro" even though he >>> isn't able to make a living of his music. >> >> I guess it is not funny at all, but making a living of music sounds >> completely elitist.. As this is only possible if only few people >> produce music.. the disc industry make people think that very few >> people are really talented, which is obviously wrong, regarded to all >> the stuff you can hear on the net, on the metro or wherever you >> listen to non commercial music.. so a pro to be pro sounds to me more >> like a capitalistic bahaviour than a musical one.. >> >> bye >> >> stephane >> >> -- >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Musique, vidéo, radio indépendante (boycottez les majors!) >> ----------------------- >> http://www.dadaprod.org >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >