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Perhaps marketing wags will fall back on that additionally-overused term, "plus". It's been around 20 years since they hung on that one. Non-creatives are so predictable! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, 17 October, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: AW: Defining "pro" > Just have been searching at a local music store's website for the word > "pro". 1544 hits. Some examples: > > * lots of Behringer stuff (I think all the rackmount ones) > * a few Line6 products (the rackmount ones) > * a few Mackie mixers > * software (e.g. Logic Pro, Acid Pro) > * different headphones (Sennheiser, Beyer, Stanton) > * turntable pickubs by Ortofon > * a lowprice company named SM Pro Audio > * a drumstick company named Pro Mark > * a supercheap guitar pseudobrand named Pro Arte > * a few products by Focusrite > * a few products by K&M (stands) > * amps by Ampeg > * guitars by BC Rich > * a cheap mike by Audio Technika > * JBL speakers > * a Furman power conditioner > * speakers by Eminence > * interfaces by Marian > * entertainer keyboards by Korg > * a few preamps by Fishman > * PA cabinets by Dynacord > * Vestax, Numark and Allen&Heath DJ mixers > * a cheap €3k upright > * DiMarzio, EMG, Seymour Duncan pickups > * harmonicas by Hohner > * stuff by Presonus > * cheap speakers by Edirol > * some in-ear phones by Ultimate Ears > > Summary: for some companies, "pro" means "rackmount" - I think Behringer > took the hint from Line6. For software, "Pro" means the same program > with more features. Higher quality? I don't think so. For many > companies, "pro" means targeted at DJs (see Allen&Heath, Sennheiser and > Beyerdynamic). for some companies, "pro" means "cheap stuff with lots of > features" (see Focusrite - they have some pro gear all right, but it's > not called "pro"). For Ampeg, similar to the software companies, it > seems to mean "lots of features". > > So we're as wise as before: Some companies never call their products > "pro", with these, you have a good chance to get pro gear (ever seen a > Rosetta Pro or SLAM Pro or GML 9500 Pro?). With all the others, you > never know... > > Rainer > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: stanitarium@earthlink.net [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net] > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Oktober 2005 07:18 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Defining "pro" > > > i think i saved this from the loopersdelight archive-but dont have the > poster's name: quote..."'Amateur' tradionally meant "one who does > something for the love of it" (from the Latin amator-amatus:lover-to > love) as opposed to the secular meaning of 'professional' as "one who > does something for gain." the term "professional" has become so debased > that whenever i see a product named w/ the prefix "pro" i automatically > assume it is inferior."...unquote > > dont know who wrote it, but its cool w/ me. > s > >> Someone once told me... >> >> "A professional does for money what an amateur does for the love of >> it." >> >> Tony >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "sonic steph" <ml@dadaprod.org> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Defining "pro" >> >> >>> Per Boysen a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I completely agree with Travis' definition of "pro". A funny >>>> definition of amateur is one who calls himself "pro" even though he >>>> isn't able to make a living of his music. >>> >>> I guess it is not funny at all, but making a living of music sounds >>> completely elitist.. As this is only possible if only few people >>> produce music.. the disc industry make people think that very few >>> people are really talented, which is obviously wrong, regarded to all > >>> the stuff you can hear on the net, on the metro or wherever you >>> listen to non commercial music.. so a pro to be pro sounds to me more > >>> like a capitalistic bahaviour than a musical one.. >>> >>> bye >>> >>> stephane >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Musique, vidéo, radio indépendante (boycottez les majors!) >>> ----------------------- >>> http://www.dadaprod.org >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> >> > > > > > > >