Re: looperlative control

[Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>]

On 12/31/05, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
> Cool.  We disagree.  You like mucking about in midi.  I don't.

That has nothing to do with it!

Point is that this is a one-man shop -- he only has a limited amount
of time and resources.  If he makes the world's most amazing looper,
people will buy it whether or not there's a footpedal -- conversely,
if it isn't very good, people won't buy it even if it comes with a
footpedal.

And there's the risk factor.  Designing a pedal that will last after
someone steps on it a few tens of thousand times is difficult.  Having
two separate parts, the box and the pedal, doubles the chances that
there will be a hardware problem that will necessitate a return. 
Returns are incredibly costly, particularly when you are a small
operation.

I agree 100% with your other point, that the unit needs to have a good
demo mode if it's to fly off the shelves.

>
> I disagree that "excellence" in footpedal design would be required.
>
> An EDP style footpedal (Record, Overdub...) with one more button to 
>switch
> "Loop Tracks" would widen the market for a Looperlative rackmount device 
>a
> lot.
>
> The alternative is to require the purchase and programming of a
> midi-footpedal so you can start and stop "Record" with your feet (because
> your hands are busy on an instrument or because your rack is 15 feet 
>away).
> That right there will severely limit the market for this cool new tool.
>
> That stated, I assume there will be no footpedal for the Looperlative.  
>And
> we can argue till the cows come home how much of a market is cut-off by
> requiring the purchase and programming of a midi footpedal for the
> Looperlative.
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: looperlative control
>
>
> I don't agree at all.   MIDI footpedals are cheap and plentiful -- you
> can just get one and plug it in the back.  Excellence at looper design
> doesn't imply excellence at footpedal design... I'd rather the time
> was spent improving the looperlative rather than designing Yet Another
> Footpedal.
>
> On 12/31/05, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Steve - Thanks for your answer.  I'm a non-midi person.  I don't use
> > laptops.  My selfish desire is to have a EDP style footpedal (Record,
> > Overdub...) with one more button to switch "Loop Tracks."  That would 
>get
> me
> > a lot - perhaps more than I can imagine fully using right there.
> >
> > And I would very humbly suggest that such a non-midi footpedal would 
>open
> > the Looperlative up to a much larger marketplace of buyers.  :-)
> >
> > David
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Lawson" <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk>
> > To: "Loop List" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:57 PM
> > Subject: looperlative control
> >
> >
> > > >>>So - if I'm understanding the implications of this posting, the
> > > Looperlative
> > > requires a Midi interface / footpedal to operate its functions.  But,
> > > does
> > > that mean no functions are controllable without midi?<<<
> > >
> > > have a look at www.looperlative.com - the picture there shows the
> > > front panel, which has button control for rec/overdub, play/stop and
> > > then four user programmable buttons to whatever functions you want to
> > > have on them. I have mine set to 'stop now' (the play/stop button is
> > > quantised to the end of the loop), 'erase', 'all stop' and, er,
> > > something else I can't remember...
> > >
> > > you can also access all the possible operations on any one track via
> > > the buttons and dial (at the moment I'm doing all my feedback control
> > > via the buttons and dial), and same with all the global functions
> > > (overall volume, play all, stop all, etc.)
> > >
> > > But in case it's what you were asking, there are no other ways to
> > > connect controllers at the moment than via the MIDI port - though I
> > > guess it could be possible for Bob to write some kind of ethernet
> > > thingie into the controller features at some point so you could rig
> > > something up via your PC.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > www.stevelawson.net - site
> > > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop
> > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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