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At 10:46 AM -0600 8/20/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: >Speaking of video looping, I don't know if such a device exists, but >an analog to something like a audio looper would be a machine that >shoots video, plays iti back in real-time, but also allows you to >keep recording video and super-imposing it over the top of the >original video, and so on.....man, that would be a trip. The only >thing I seen close to this is in my looping videos, where they had >three cameras on me, and the producer in the studio was panning and >fading from one camera to another, so you saw video superimposed on >video, but it wasn't looping of course. Anyway, a real video >looping machine would be cool...imagine multiplying with video, or >reverse, half time, insert, etc.. Old school. Lots of stuff like this was done during the late 60's and 70's under the auspices of "video art", "performance art", or "multimedia". There were actual video synthesizers (some modular in nature) that would let you play with the image using delays, etc., etc., just in the same manner that you can manipulate audio on a conventional modular synth. Fairlight even marketed a pretty kewl little instrument known as the Fairlight CVI (Computer *Video* Instrument) in the 80's, although most of its functions have since been superseded by things like the Arkaos stuff. I can even remember -- back in my Multimedia class in college -- experimenting with video tape loops using one of those open reel Sony half-inch machines (completely whacks it out, BTW). Lots of really interesting video stuff actually happened about a quarter-century back. I think it was mostly killed by MTV, though (aside from the occasional logo bump).... :P Try a web search on Nam June Paik. That should find you enough links to get started. --m. -- _______ "I want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back..."