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As someone who has worked quite a bit in both these apps, I can say that although there is no difference in the capabilities or the sound quality of both, there is a MASSIVE (please imagine font size 72) difference in "what one actually DOES with them!" Max/msp is so much more designed for specific application, as in.. think up a audio concept that requires some computer magic, and construct the tool for the job. This could be processing a string quartet by "applying" algorithms based on Moterhead samples for quadraphonic playback, or slicing drumloops into 256 pieces where each slice is randomly pitched and panned based on the skin resistance of a sleeping child. WHEREAS: Reactor, is more for the guy who wants to build a flexible environment/tool (read sequencer or processor) that fits his future musical plans, and will therefore be more complex and varied, and will probably see more use as a personal tool, past the one off performance thingy that Max would make... Its a head thing... Reactor makes you think of music, whereas Max make you think of Concepts. Therefore ones Max patch tends to be minimal "experiments" and ones Reactor Patches tend to be full-on-floor-stomping-aspirin-chewing-noisy-nighmares... My general impression of both of these packages is that they suck the living blood outa you, your skin goes grey, you start to smell of dead cells cigerettes and pizza, your friends talk about you when you are not there, and you dont talk much to them when they are there... evil... dark....and grim....and my personal favorites... audio much and synthedit.... are both just slightly less dangerous than heroin. Just say NO... just mho mark francombe (who uses NO computers in the making of his music... anymore... and is now rosy cheeked and losing weight!!! All you augustas/mobius/live type people... beware, here speaks the words of truth from a recovering addict, now sit down relax and dream of those enigmatic metal boxes with flashing lights and real cables... racks... and now when you are completely relaxed ask yourself this question, "am I using a laptop cos its easier to get to gigs?") marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com > Max allows you to build patchers ("objects") yourself by combining > existing ones. Your own patchers link into the authoring system just >like > the pre-existing ones. You can go a long way before you need to hack > externals in C. > > Many of the patchers within Max are actually compositions of more basic > components. > > Bernhard > ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1322 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len