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Re: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:02
PM
Subject: Re: New Member - Buying Advice and
Opinions Sought
> That is correct, the digi jamman is designed
to pre record your backing
> tracks. Its not a live looper IMO. its a
phrase sampler.
It's both a phrase sampler and a live looper. Just because
it doesn't jump seamlessly between loops doesn't mean that it can't be
used live, or that it wasn't "designed" to; it just means that the
loop itself is a static, one way sort of thing. . . an obvious limitation
when comparing it to other loopers, but still useful in its own way, esp. for
beginners . . .
> From: "Rob "Bodhi" Wolff" <Bodhiwolff@comcast.net>
> To:
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:53 PM
> Subject:
RE: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions Sought
>
>
>>
Thank you for the suggestion!
>>
>> The only issue I might
have with the JamMan is that, while on paper it
>> appears that you can
have up to 99 loops, it appears that you must stop
>> playback and
store each loop before moving to a new one, or your work is
>>
erased. Thus, working live wouldn't work, as you'd only ever be
working
>> with a single loop, being unable to stop playback and
store. Or rather,
>> live work reduces the JamMan to a
single-loop device, if you see what I
>> mean.
>>
>>
However, I could be mis-reading the documentation. Please correct me if
>> I'm
>> wrong.
>>
>> If anybody has any
experience working with the JamMan, I'd appreciate
>> hearing your
opinions.
>>
>> //////////////
>>
>> I still
keep looking at the Boomerang III (which I know isn't out yet) but
>>
the lack of microphone is a deal-breaker for me. I'm often working
with
>> somebody else's setup (with their show) so I couldn't simply
bring along
>> my
>> own mixer, etc. and plug back in.
Is there an easy-ish workaround for
>> adding a microphone (which
would, by necessity, require a means of
>> switching
>>
between mic/inst/both ?) I guess this question applies to many
more
>> products than the Boomerang, as well, since this would bring
many more
>> products into possible contention.
>>
>>
Thank you to everybody for any advice you can give.
>>
>>
________________________________
>>
>> From: Joshua &
Jennifer Easley [mailto:j.easley@msn.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September
02, 2008 8:42 AM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>> Subject: Re: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions
Sought
>>
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Have
you looked at the Digitech JamMan? it has both instrument and mic
>>
inputs (presumably you can use them both at the same), and can also be
>> used
>> as an interface for computer recording.
>>
>> The same is true of the GNX4, which may be an even
better solution if you
>> want to incorporate effects and amp models
into your loops (i.e. make your
>> acoustic sound like an electric).
The GNX4 has an integrated "JamMan"
>> looper, different from the
above, but in a way better, because with it you
>> can lay down up to 8
mono loop tracks (or 4 stereo), and then disengage or
>> re-engage them
by pressing the corresponding track buttons. (For example,
>>
if
>> on track 1 you record guitar, vocals on track 2, and some sort of
rhythym
>> on
>> track 3, then, for variation, you can press
buttons 1 & 2 to silence them,
>> leaving only the third track
playing; if you press the same buttons again
>> tracks 1 & 2 will
start playing again.)
>>
>> I used the GNX for several years
before upgrading to an Echoplex (probably
>> #1 of the "big three" that
you referred to). The former has the advantage
>> of
>> being
really easy to use, so it's obviously a good way to start. I like it
>>
too (and still use it in my live setup) because it's literally an all in
>> one
>> device, thus simplifying the whole potentially
complicated routing issue.
>> .
>>
>>
>>
--Joshua
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rob "Bodhi" Wolff" <Bodhiwolff@comcast.net>>
<mailto:Bodhiwolff@comcast.net>
>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>> <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:34
AM
>> Subject: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions
Sought
>>
>>
>>> Hi
all!
>>>
>>> I'm a new member to the list, and I'm
looking to expand my musical style
>> by
>>> getting into
looping. However, I find that my lack of knowledge and
>>>
experience with the equipment is hampering my decision-making process,
>>> and
>>> I'm hoping that you all might be able to
guide me a little.
>>>
>>> I hope I'm not breaking any
etiquette by asking for purchasing advice.
>>> If
>>>
so, please simply ignore my newbie mistake.
>>>
>>> I've
tried reading up on the various products, and I tried reading
the
>>> reviews up on this site, but frankly I am still mostly in
the dark.
>>> Heck,
>>> people keep referring to the
"big three", and I'm still not sure which
>> three
>>>
they're referring to!
>>>
>>> While I'd appreciate any
reading lists or advice for suggested reading
>>>
you
>>> wish to give, I really think that I'm just going to need to
trust the
>>> experts at some point.
>>>
>>>
So I thought I'd just come out and ask you what you thought I should
pick
>>> up, specifically, for my particular
requirements.
>>>
>>> My needs: I play almost
exclusively live, acoustic guitar and vocals at
>> the
>>>
same time, and would want to loop either guitar or vocals or both
(or
>> other
>>> instruments through the mike). As a
live player, I'd need something
>>> portable, small, easy to set up,
etc. (a rack-mounted unit is probably
>>> inappropriate) and my
hands will be unavailable while playing, as a
>>> guitarist.
The loops would need to be at least the length of an entire
>>>
verse/chorus combination, so that could run up to 1 minute or more. As
a
>>> live acoustic instrumentalist, it'd be nice if the sound
quality was as
>> high
>>> as possible, and if there was
little-to-no hiss from the looping unit.
>> It'd
>>> be
nice to save a decent loop after the fact (off the unit onto a
>>
recording
>>> medium of some sort) but this is far secondary to
decent live
>>> performance.
>>> Ease-of-use is a
bonus, but I'm expecting a learning curve. However,
>>>
that
>>> being said, the ability to remove the last layer (if a
mistake was made,
>>> 'cause I make 'em!) would be a big plus!
Simple effects would be nice,
>> too,
>>> as I own no
effects pedals (and feel free to make suggestions there if
>>>
you
>>> feel they would enhance things). I'd want to loop both
guitar and vocal
>>> lines at various times, perhaps even looping
multiple different loops and
>>> playing them in synch, or in
sequence.
>>>
>>> I looked at the new Boomerang III
specs on a friends' advice, and from
>> what
>>> I could
make of it, it seemed that it only loops one input (so I could
>>
only
>>> loop the guitar, or the vocals, but not both). Of
course, I could be
>> wrong,
>>> and/or there may be a
workaround that is commonly used for this drawback
>>
(if
>>> this is a common state of affairs for many looping
pedals).
>>>
>>> I'm extremely interested in moving
forward with this project, but sadly I
>>> just seem to have run
into an informational wall that I can't seem to
>>
break.
>>>
>>> So please, if you have a moment, feel
free to share any advice, thoughts,
>> or
>>> suggestions
that you wish. And frankly, if you simpy want to come out
>>>
and
>>> say "I'd suggest buying Such-and-such" then that is fine by
me!
>>>
>>> Thank you kindly for your
consideration.
>>>
>>>
Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Rob "Bodhi"
Wolff
>>>
>>>
>>
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