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Re: Mobius & Live...why



Zoe Keating works with Live and SooperLooper using MIDI scenes, so she 
avoids to dancing
on the buttons of the footpedal.
Looks into the archive and you'll find some posts from Zoe about her 
looping 
approach.
In these days, I'm making some tests about the same techcnic applied to 
Mobius running inside Bidule and i've got some interesting results.
I don't use Live for looping...maybe in the future when Mobius will be 
available for Mac.
But what you're talking about is definitively possible (and useful).


Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Ludwig" <sfmissionman@yahoo.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Mobius & Live...why


> Thanks for the insight. I also have Live Lite that came with my Digi 
>002R, 
> but I don't want to use the 002R for live gigs. So I'm going to have to 
> upgrade, and I'm trying to decide if I should spring for the full 
>version 
> or if LE is enough. I've already got ProTools and Sonar, so I don't 
>think 
> I need another DAW. But you never know. I'm currently using the Live 
>eval 
> with a MOTU 828.
>
> Since I first posted this message, I had another thought about Live and 
> Mobius. If you're using a MIDI foot controller, you can record both your 
> linear audio as well as MIDI input, and as such can play back a looping 
> performance by routing the real time linear audio as well as the MIDI 
> commands back in to Mobius. That would enable you to do things like fix 
> minor mistakes in the audio, or better adjust things like feedback and 
> volume in the MIDI data stream, and then re-render the looping 
> performance.
>
> I wonder if ayone is actually doing this?
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, sine@zerocrossing.net <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote:
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>> From: sine@zerocrossing.net <sine@zerocrossing.net>
>> Subject: Re: Mobius & Live...why
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 3:17 PM
>> I initially got Live "Lite" with my audio
>> interface and I thought it might
>> be a cool way to do a live show sans instruments.  Kind of
>> "DJ" my own
>> music by pre-recording loops and then kind of reconstitute
>> them.
>>
>> BORING.  To me at least.  People seemed to like it but I
>> felt like I was
>> checking my email and not making music.
>>
>> So then when I started using Mobius I really wanted to use
>> VST instruments
>> and effects as well.  Live was a good choice because I
>> could just upgrade
>> from the Lite version.  It's also ubiquitous so almost
>> all commercial plug
>> ins are tested so they work in it.  Also, it's easy to
>> use.  Bidule seems
>> super powerful, but most of it I don't need.  I like to
>> keep that kind of
>> complexity away from me in the looping process.
>>
>> Also, one of the things I love about Live is that I can
>> make automation
>> loops that are a lot longer than my audio loops.  This is
>> great for
>> applying an effect that changes over a very long time
>> period.
>>
>> Basically I use 20% of what Live is good for, but it's
>> nice to know that I
>> have it for the future and in the mean time I have a great
>> little
>> instrument and looper set up that's stable.
>>
>> Mark
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