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In the 'not available anymore but worth getting a used one' category, if you come across a Roland RSP-550, check it out. I have one but have not had a lot of chance to play with the MIDI features (which there are a lot of it seems.) It's got quite nice reverbs and delays and apparently a vocoder. It's a pretty deep unit, I just haven't had the chance to delve into it. It's on the list, behind the VG8, MPX100, Vortex... so many toys. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >> Andy, >> >> you do not specify which of the items 1-10 you mention are actually >> hard requirements or if there are any other soft requirements, but... >> > > Needs 1) two inputs can be be panned/treated separately, or together > 2) filters and tremolo synced to midi clock > 3) Must be ways to "stereoise" both inputs individually, with delays. > 4) Output on XLRs > Much prefer > 1) 1U rack mount > > Likes > 1) hmm, reverb can be nice > 2) addition unbalanced line out for recording 3) light weight > 4) light price 5) good flanger > 6) a delay of 5s for additional loop texture > > >> Some people have suggested the FireworX: while the FireworX offers a >> lot of great options (great flexibility in routing structure, >> including the option to insert an external device into the signal >> chain via the s/pdifs, lots of modulation options, including pitch >> detection and a pattern sequencer, great digital lo-fi effects), I've >> always found that it lacks processing power seriously, given its >> richness in features. You typically max out at 3 to 4 processing >> blocks (and some of them are only available once, e.g. only one filter >> at a time), so this may limit you a lot if you want to process two >> mono inputs separately. > > thanks, that's interesting, ...very useful. > Heavy processing on both channels isn't essential, but it's great to > have an idea of the limitations. > > I'm fascinated that it has an fx loop, so the edps could go into > that and give me the option of pre-process as well. > > I'm guessing that like the MPX1 there's a big wait when changing patches, > with no sound, is that the case? > > >> The fact that it only has XLR connectors is not a showstopper but >> somehow impractical. > > I need XLR out. > ...but would be nice to have a jack out to hook up a recording device. > >> Btw, maximum delay time if I remember correctly >> is something like 2.9 seconds (mono). > > right, the MPX1 has a 2 sec stereo delay which looks > like it could be configured as 4sec mono > > > >> Summary: it's by far not as cool as it looks, because of a lack of >> processing power. However it has a lot of flexibility which only a >> tiny few (read: Eventide H8000 etc.) effects processors have to offer. > > right, but those Eventides are extra expensive. > > > >> And the lo-fi/digital dirt effects are a welcome addition. > > maybe, I generally avoid as always I seem to have tinnitus after hearing > digi-distortion > >> >> Now something for the "bizarre and unsuitable" reign: enter the Clavia >> Nord Modular G2 Engine. 1HU in size, this device (which is basically >> an extremely flexible virtual modular synth) doesn't have any >> front-panel knobs or displays of any kind - so some kind of solution >> for patch change is needed - and for effects editing, you actually >> need a computer. > > ahhh > well, maybe that fits exactly, ...off to check it out :-) > > >> Why do I recommend it anyway? Lots of processing options! Tons of >> flexibility! And you even get a free synthesizer! >> I have been using the Nord MicroModular (the previous model's tiny >> version in a small tabletop case) a lot - however that old one only >> had minimum delay capability. A great thing! Highly recommended! >> Claude Voit used to use one to pattern-sequence his EDPs. >> >> Rainer > > thanks Rainer, and also to Bill, Luca, Per for suggestion the Fireworx, > which is still a possible. > > andy >> >> > > -- -==-=-=- Tony